Did I miss the Teddy Valentine thread?

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Rich

There's no reason such a disciplinary action should be kept quiet.

If Collins doesn't make it public, there's no reason Valentine can't, if that's what he wants.

Why shouldn't it be kept quiet? There have been Final Four-experienced officials in previous years that didn't make the cut for whatever reason, and I don't remember them going to the media.

Are you saying that Collins should have publicized a list of all the officials that would have gotten in the tournament absent disciplinary issues?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Why shouldn't it be kept quiet? There have been Final Four-experienced officials in previous years that didn't make the cut for whatever reason, and I don't remember them going to the media.



Are you saying that Collins should have publicized a list of all the officials that would have gotten in the tournament absent disciplinary issues?

I think my problem with the whole thing is that someone is lying in the Yahoo article.


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[crosscountry55]

We don't know all of the facts. What we do appear to know is that Teddy Valentine talked to ESPN on Monday (who reached out to who is unclear).

I agree with Rich that if JD doesn't want to publicly comment (and I agree with his actions of not doing so), Teddy has every right to do so on his own. But there's a right way and a wrong way to talk to ESPN.

Working in the tournament is a privilege, not a right. Teddy seems to have forgotten that at the moment. He might have said to ESPN, "While I disagree with and am disappointed by my exclusion, I understand the context of JD's decision and I respect it." If he says that, he's probably right back in the Final Four next year. But he didn't say that. This is unfortunate both for Teddy and the game. But Teddy is not bigger than the game, and the game will go on, with or without him.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

We don't know all of the facts. What we do appear to know is that Teddy Valentine talked to ESPN on Monday (who reached out to who is unclear).



I agree with Rich that if JD doesn't want to publicly comment (and I agree with his actions of not doing so), Teddy has every right to do so on his own. But there's a right way and a wrong way to talk to ESPN.



Working in the tournament is a privilege, not a right. Teddy seems to have forgotten that at the moment. He might have said to ESPN, "While I disagree with and am disappointed by my exclusion, I understand the context of JD's decision and I respect it." If he says that, he's probably right back in the Final Four next year. But he didn't say that. This is unfortunate both for Teddy and the game. But Teddy is not bigger than the game, and the game will go on, with or without him.

He's 59.

But those that say he's terrible, etc. are just delusional. 29 tournaments and 10 Final Fours. You don't get that by being terrible.


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Originally Posted by Rich

29 tournaments and 10 Final Fours.

What was your source on this? I looked last night and found 7 as his number of Final Fours in an article.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

What was your source on this? I looked last night and found 7 as his number of Final Fours in an article.

He may have been an alternate for 3 Finals Four.

[JRutledge]

At the end of the day, this comes down to who you work for. NCAA officials work for the NCAA when it comes to the tournament. So if he did something that did not make them feel good, he can and will be punished. It is their tournament and can make whatever decisions they wish. TV worked tons of games on TV this year after that incident, so he was clearly the top guy on many lists.

I think he is a great official and this situation was the type that takes place when players get too big for their britches. I will just leave it at that fact.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rich

I think my problem with the whole thing is that someone is lying in the Yahoo article.


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In another article I read, it appeared that JD's statement was not in regards to discussing the decision with TV, but that JD doesn't discuss selections with the press or general public.