Kansas HS foul
This is one of the worst fouls I've ever seen:
https://247sports.com/Bolt/Watch-Kan...ion--116060825 Obviously, this was *not* called a flagrant foul as the player wasn't ejected and Kansas plays NFHS rules. If this isn't a flagrant personal foul, I'm not sure what is. |
This isn’t even one of those “I don’t want to eject a player because it’s the playoffs” kind of calls. How can a 2 hand shove to the back at full speed not be flagrant?
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Absolutely under no circumstance does that kid stay in the game if I am the ref. I don’t care if it is a regular season game or the NBA finals he is gone. Those refs should be ashamed and suspended.
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Doesn't get more flagrant than that without weapons involved.
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And we have Jayhawk fans who complain about college officiating?
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I don't know why he was allowed to continue in the game.
Oh well. Peace |
He gone!
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This is one of those sports plays that is severe enough to bring a lawsuit. :eek:
I would have ejected before offensive player hit the stanchion. |
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Plain and simple ejection. Then as soon as the defender’s coach opened his mouth and says anything about the call, he picks up his first.....
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From a NFHS mechanics standpoint, how should this be handled?
If the official's first reaction is to give the intentional foul signal, is the official committing himself to an intentional foul and no ejection? (A state championship official once told me this.) |
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But in no way does the signal boxy you in. You do not even have to give the signal at all, but since intentional fouls have more penalities related, you can always upgrade. I would not downgrade if I gave that signal. Peace |
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As for this call...wow. |
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Back to the OP situation. Let's just say that I can't recall another time when we haven't had a single dissenting opinion to a flagrant foul call or no-call. The only thing more sinister than the foul was the lack of courage to DQ the fouler. |
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I also can't tell his angle at the moment of contact. It's possible he didn't see the hands and just thought it was a body bump. Or, perhaps, as someone suggested earlier, he thought once he signaled intentional he couldn't upgrade it--we've all had brain farts that aren't lack of courage. But, wow, what a miss. |
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I was talking to a new ref recently about how he didn't call an easy intentional foul in the game, I ended up calling it. No issue, the coach said it was the right call. I also did the same thing my first year. Sometimes things happen that are really unexpected and you just aren't mentally ready to make the right call. Now it is easier for me and just becomes sort of automatic. Not sure what happened here and if that is the case. Also, in this situation I would want the refs to gather and talk it over. For intentional fouls or ejection type calls I would have no issue with the other refs trying to get the call upgraded. Yeah, maybe he didn't think the push was too hard and the player's momentum carried him. But if there are three refs on the court and all clearly got a good look at a foul from behind then logically you think they would have ejected the player.
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Follow up story from Wash Post with extra video from ref's angle
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Loved this line in the article: "John Blazek, who selects referees for the NCAA tournament, told the station that Rempe should have been ejected."
and this comment: "Mr. Blazek, who is in charge of assigning refs to the NCAA big dance, said the kid would have been tossed due to putting a player’s well being in jeopardy if it were a college game. Well then, Mr. Blazek, in 4 years why has the dirtiest player in the game (Grayson Allen) never been tossed? Please explain that one to us all." :D |
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I will pass on the team technical but I do agree with having the parent escorted out of the gym....
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Assess technical fouls, eject these parents from gyms, charge them with trespassing for entering the court, ban them from attending future games, etc. It's time to crack down on this obnoxious behavior. This must stop... http://www.wiredfocus.com/rpd-lookin...-playoff-game/ |
Definite flagrant foul. IMHO, an ejection was warranted.
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Another follow-up story with a few more details. I actually like how this was handled.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/apology...220515827.html |
It's great that this was ironed out between the principals, and I understand social media blow things up. But I'm afraid the takeaway from this the next time will be that it was an ugly, flagrant foul, and there was no ejection. So all someone will have to do is apologize and everything will be all right. We'll be seeing this again.
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Yeah, great that the kid apologized and it was accepted but doesnt change the fact that he should have been disqualified from the game.
We know better than most how things look different from different angles but there is no angle where that is not a flagrant foul. That is a reckless, dangerous, non-basketball play that should be ruled a flagrant foul 100 times out of 100. |
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