Pre season coaches meeting

[Terrapins Fan]

If you were going to have a meeting with High school coaches before the season begins what would you share with them about officiating to educate them andimprove relationships?

I expect that we will be limited to about an hour or so.

[LRZ]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

If you were going to have a meeting with High school coaches before the season begins what would you share with them about officiating to educate them and improve relationships?

Confirmational bias.

The game is not called from the bench, but from the floor. If an official is hustling and in the right positions, give him/her the benefit of the doubt.

Don't comment or question every play and every call/no-call. Show some respect if you have a question or comment. If you want to pick a fight with an official, you will likely lose.

Don't officiate the game from the sideline.

FWIW, in the two PIAA sports I work (basketball and soccer), we have a mandatory pre-season coaches meeting, where the focus is solely on POEs.

[deecee]

These meetings are ineffective. Almost every area has these "pre-season" meetings. They are as useful as pregame sportsmanship lectures. With no bite and enforcement rules and decor are worthless.

In the end treat coaches like adults and most will be fine. The few that aren't will be the same jerks they are no matter how many times you sit them down and "talk" to them. It's just life.

[Terrapins Fan]

Good advice. Thanks.

We do 2 states, WV & Md. in WV coach come to a clinic, mandatory, in Md, they can, but rarely do.

Empathy. How would they feel if they were treated the way they treat us?

“It’s not like I go to their work and knock the cocks out of their mouths.” — Jimmy Carr

[LRZ]

I thought the question was what to discuss, not whether meetings are worthwhile.

OK, so how about: "Coaches, treat us like adults and we'll be fine"? [Fixed it.]

[deecee]

Originally Posted by LRZ

I thought the question was what to discuss, not whether meetings are worthwhile.

OK, so how about: "Coaches, treat us like adults and we'll be fine"?

The best thing to discuss are

1. these are the rules
2. these are the expectations
3. these are the penalties when 1&2 are not followed

Then follow up on point 3 during the season. I think it's sad that you want to discuss with adults that you want to be treated like one. Just act like one. Take care of business and your job. The rest, I have found, play themselves out fine.

[nolanjj68]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

If you were going to have a meeting with High school coaches before the season begins what would you share with them about officiating to educate them andimprove relationships?

I expect that we will be limited to about an hour or so.

I will just add to the list.

Tell your players that yelling "AND ONE" after every goddamn shot is going to result in a warning followed by a technical and we will just keep going with technicals until we clear the gym.

Signed- an official sick of hearing "AND ONE" after every goddamn shot.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by nolanjj68

I will just add to the list.

Tell your players that yelling "AND ONE" after every goddamn shot is going to result in a warning followed by a technical and we will just keep going with technicals until we clear the gym.

Signed- an official sick of hearing "AND ONE" after every goddamn shot.

what do you actually do about it in your games. because i don't believe that the warning then T actually works, or is acceptable, by any means (at least at higher levels).

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by deecee

... don't believe that ... T actually ... is acceptable ...

Agree.

Unsporting? Maybe/not sure.

Warning ("Knock it off.")? Possibly, but only under extreme circumstances.

T-Worthy? No.

[ODog]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

...

T-Worthy? No.

As a throwaway line, diarrhea of the mouth, agreed. But if you clearly direct it at me in a loud, suggestive fashion, absolutely a T. I've called that in varsity boys and will continue to do so.

[nolanjj68]

Originally Posted by ODog

As a throwaway line, diarrhea of the mouth, agreed. But if you clearly direct it at me in a loud, suggestive fashion, absolutely a T. I've called that in varsity boys and will continue to do so.

Agreed. Not sure why anyone here would say it's not T worthy. I'm sure everyone here is seeing it more and more. I know I am and I find warning the coach and then T-ing the player or bench if necessary shuts it right down.

I just tell the coach "Coach, tell your players we are not doing the AND ONE on every shot." Most of them handle it.

[nolanjj68]

Originally Posted by deecee

what do you actually do about it in your games. because i don't believe that the warning then T actually works, or is acceptable, by any means (at least at higher levels).

I warn the coach, then go to the T. It works.