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JRutledge Tue Mar 06, 2018 03:54pm

ACC Tournament 2018 Plays (Video)
 
Play #1:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/UUt32dX-130" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Play #2:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/sltUxAOVMoA" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

More to come as more requests and more plays will be reviewed.

Peace

Raymond Tue Mar 06, 2018 04:11pm

On play #2 I can see at least one rationale for calling a foul--the ball goes off his hand while his wrist is being slapped. If this is the last 2 minutes, video review would be giving the ball to the defense.

Camron Rust Tue Mar 06, 2018 07:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1018273)
On play #2 I can see at least one rationale for calling a foul--the ball goes off his hand while his wrist is being slapped. If this is the last 2 minutes, video review would be giving the ball to the defense.

And that...the fact that it would go to the defense if reviewed is the reason to just call the foul. In fact, it would be a shooting foul. Given that, even if it were not a review, why would it not be a foul any time? Getting the ball OOB is not a just result for being fouled while shooting. It might be for a non-shooting foul, but this contact took away what was otherwise a fairly easy shot.

As for the first play, yes, the official was fooled. That was not a PC foul.

AremRed Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:06am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 1018297)
As for the first play, yes, the official was fooled. That was not a PC foul.

Two officials.

Camron Rust Wed Mar 07, 2018 03:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 1018307)
Two officials.

You're right.

And the dead giveaway was that the defenders knees buckled first. If he was hit and displaced, that would have never happened.

jeremy341a Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:24pm

If he doesn't flop what are his options? Keep getting back downed or hold his ground which usually ends up in a call against the defense. I don't know why he has to man up and keep absorbing the contact to the chest.

#olderthanilook Wed Mar 07, 2018 01:34pm

1. The only angle we have on the play is worse than the angle the L had on the play. I'll go with what he had since he could probably see between A1 and B1.

2. Seems like a nice block since first contact was directly on the ball dislodging it from A1's hand. But, if an airborne shooter is still a shooter until returning to the floor, then that contact is a foul. Send him to the line.
**I might also consider a foul on B1 for contacting/pushing A1 in the chest with his off hand before the shot is released. Tough to see in real time, though.
I'd be willing to bet I've called this OOB for a blue throw-in a thousand times, though.

JRutledge Sat Mar 10, 2018 02:48pm

Play #3:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/MUCs7_Jspc4" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Peace

AremRed Sat Mar 10, 2018 06:00pm

Play 3: Easy block call.

#76 Sat Mar 10, 2018 06:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 1018307)
Two officials.

I'm not so sure two were fooled. L came right out and punched the PC, T didn't look like he was necessarily sold on that but what was he going to do at that point?

JRutledge Sun Mar 11, 2018 02:21pm

Play #4:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/h-c0Rh8tfRg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Play #5:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/vIzh9AjSeSE" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Peace

RefRich Sun Mar 11, 2018 06:16pm

I was watching the end of the 4th video and kept rewinding to see how he made a call from that distance and that angle. Then you highlighted it in video #5. Trail was trying to look around two players and was quite a distance away to make that call.

Lead was right at the play and if there was anything he should have had that call. Didn't appear to be anything but a steal.

Camron Rust Sun Mar 11, 2018 09:19pm

#4. F1. There was no reason for that...a non-basketball play.

#5. The trail guessed. There was no contact....well, no contact with anything but the ball. Don't guess!!

Multiple Sports Mon Mar 12, 2018 01:23am

Edgar Cartotto
 
I remember roughly 20 years Edgar Cartotto saying that the lead should double the side line when the ball is inbounds in the backcourt and then get to the endline after the initial first play.

Cant see the lead on this play but I bet he is on the endline...

Raymond Mon Mar 12, 2018 09:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 1018720)
I remember roughly 20 years Edgar Cartotto saying that the lead should double the side line when the ball is inbounds in the backcourt and then get to the endline after the initial first play.

Cant see the lead on this play but I bet he is on the endline...

Edgar would be disappointed with your video viewing skills. Very first segment of the clip shows Teddy V on the sideline looking right at the play, though he does backpedal away from it.

Jamie knows better than to blow his whistle from such a terrible (or non-existent) look.


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