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SC Official Mon Feb 26, 2018 08:39pm

Duke/Va. Tech
 
Anyone watching this right now? At 9:59 in the second half Coach K calls TO and calls one of the officials over to talk. Dan Dakich then proceeds to rant the entire timeout about how officials shouldn't give K their ear and that it would "infuriate" him if he were the opposing coach.

bucky Mon Feb 26, 2018 09:31pm

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Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1017884)
Anyone watching this right now? At 9:59 in the second half Coach K calls TO and calls one of the officials over to talk. Dan Dakich then proceeds to rant the entire timeout about how officials shouldn't give K their ear and that it would "infuriate" him if he were the opposing coach.

Yup, announcers going off on......nothing.

How about Duke last shot? Foul during Allen's 3?

#olderthanilook Tue Feb 27, 2018 08:32am

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Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1017886)
Yup, announcers going off on......nothing.

How about Duke last shot? Foul during Allen's 3?

I just saw the highlights of the game before rolling into work.

That play didn't look like the VT player committed a foul.

Question....why do grown ash men continue to wear their hair like a woman? And, why do they keep hyphenating their last names? Two trends I hope go away much much sooner than later.

Smitty Tue Feb 27, 2018 08:56am

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Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 1017889)
Question....why do grown ash men continue to wear their hair like a woman? And, why do they keep hyphenating their last names? Two trends I hope go away much much sooner than later.

Maybe you're starting to be as old as you are cranky.

#olderthanilook Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:32am

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 1017891)
Maybe you're starting to be as old as you are cranky.

I think you're on to something.

Nonetheless, I'm not a fan of the Raggedy Ann or perched opposum hair styles. At this point, I'd be happy if corn rows made a come back.

JRutledge Tue Feb 27, 2018 01:56pm

Play #1:
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Play #2:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/-lHpUEXnx3s" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Play #3:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/dVh9yU5bm0o" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Play #4: Last second shot
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/GN9kB7MoHNQ" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Peace

bob jenkins Tue Feb 27, 2018 02:09pm

3) No foul.

(I didn't watch the rant in #1)

Jay R Tue Feb 27, 2018 02:24pm

One broadcaster can't understand why they go over and another one would be incensed if they didn't go over.

Do what your supervisor wants.

Raymond Tue Feb 27, 2018 03:22pm

#3) W34 may have swiped the face prior to the other action.

#4) I think that's a foul

CJP Tue Feb 27, 2018 03:43pm

#3) No Foul

#4) Foul. But a call would have to be consistent with how the entire game was called. I see there was only 4 fouls called (total) after 10 minutes of play in the second half.

frezer11 Tue Feb 27, 2018 04:22pm

I'm surprised no one has mentioned old Buzz Williams grabbing the mic and instructing his student section to stop cursing. Highlight of the game!!

JRutledge Tue Feb 27, 2018 04:30pm

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Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 1017913)
I'm surprised no one has mentioned old Buzz Williams grabbing the mic and instructing his student section to stop cursing. Highlight of the game!!

When did that happen?

Peace

frezer11 Tue Feb 27, 2018 04:56pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1017914)
When did that happen?

Peace

Either 3:03 or 2:08 according to Play-By-Play, it was just before Allen was on the FT line.

Player989random Tue Feb 27, 2018 08:15pm

1. Don't go over, watch what happens. We have technical fouls and calls to supervisor saying "He won't talk to me. I don't ever want him again."

2. Goal tending, but should the lead signal? Don't get me wrong, I would be watching as well, but the C wasn't late with the call, so why not wait?

3. No foul. Clean strip.

4. In the first half? Maybe. End of the game? No. God no.

JRutledge Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:32pm

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Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 1017916)
Either 3:03 or 2:08 according to Play-By-Play, it was just before Allen was on the FT line.

Which half?

Peace

johnny d Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:42pm

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Originally Posted by Player989random (Post 1017923)
4. In the first half? Maybe. End of the game? No. God no.

So Duke has no chance to win the game if you are officiating because you are afraid to call a foul on the last shot of the game. Great philosophy!

frezer11 Wed Feb 28, 2018 01:28am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1017927)
Which half?

Peace

2nd half

nolanjj68 Wed Feb 28, 2018 04:13am

How about the free throws at 25.6 seconds left. Ball tipped out of bounds by Duke after missed free throw. VT player grabs a Duke player who had a play to save the ball preventing him from doing so. No foul called, crew has to go to the video to determine who the ball was off. Not their finest moment of the game.

JRutledge Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:40am

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Originally Posted by nolanjj68 (Post 1017947)
How about the free throws at 25.6 seconds left. Ball tipped out of bounds by Duke after missed free throw. VT player grabs a Duke player who had a play to save the ball preventing him from doing so. No foul called, crew has to go to the video to determine who the ball was off. Not their finest moment of the game.

I am going to assume you mean second half?

Peace

nolanjj68 Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:33am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1017959)
I am going to assume you mean second half?

Peace

Correct. Sorry I left that off.

JRutledge Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:22pm

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Originally Posted by nolanjj68 (Post 1017960)
Correct. Sorry I left that off.

Just wanted to save time. No problem.

Peace

Player989random Wed Feb 28, 2018 01:51pm

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Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 1017933)
So Duke has no chance to win the game if you are officiating because you are afraid to call a foul on the last shot of the game. Great philosophy!

Did anyone react to that no-call? Did anyone other than refs who've been trained to "watch the shooter come down" even notice the VT player jump slightly into Allen's path? The kid took a desperation shot and he isn't getting any help unless he ends up bleeding on the court.

Get the obvious.

Raymond Wed Feb 28, 2018 02:40pm

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Originally Posted by Player989random (Post 1017975)
Did anyone react to that no-call? Did anyone other than refs who've been trained to "watch the shooter come down" even notice the VT player jump slightly into Allen's path? The kid took a desperation shot and he isn't getting any help unless he ends up bleeding on the court.

Get the obvious.

Desperation? That's normal 3-point range. I know a Mid-Atlantic college supervisor who got on a crew for not calling a foul on a half-court heave at the end of a game. He said the crew needs to have the courage to make that call.

youngump Wed Feb 28, 2018 02:56pm

For #4, should goal tending be called? It looks to me like that shot still might have gone in.

Raymond Wed Feb 28, 2018 03:12pm

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Originally Posted by youngump (Post 1017983)
For #4, should goal tending be called? It looks to me like that shot still might have gone in.

Ball was coming up short of the rim. And that was the offensive player who grabbed the ball.

nolanjj68 Wed Feb 28, 2018 03:34pm

Might have been a foul. Seemed borderline to me. I stick with no call. Also, "the Kid" is Grayson Allen, he's not going to get borderline calls.

so cal lurker Wed Feb 28, 2018 03:53pm

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Originally Posted by youngump (Post 1017983)
For #4, should goal tending be called? It looks to me like that shot still might have gone in.

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1017984)
Ball was coming up short of the rim. And that was the offensive player who grabbed the ball.

I thought it was really tough to tell from the angle we had if the ball was going to hit the rim. I thought it was going to hit the rim and go up in the air--with a minimal chance of going in on a bounce. But pretty irrelevant since it was the offensive player and the buzzer went off first.


Note that Allen did not even look for a call . . .

frezer11 Thu Mar 01, 2018 01:51am

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Originally Posted by nolanjj68 (Post 1017985)
Might have been a foul. Seemed borderline to me. I stick with no call. Also, "the Kid" is Grayson Allen, he's not going to get borderline calls.

I'd like to hope this is irrelevant.


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