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JRutledge Wed Feb 21, 2018 02:00pm
West Virginia @ Kansas plays -Additional (Video)
 
Play #1:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3O3AUuKD4cc" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Play #2:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/1vjZJTSez3Q" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Play #3:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Hc5C5Xa4mIc" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Play #4: (Ejection video coming - I cannot believe no one told me about this)
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/48JXo06PCGs" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Peace

HokiePaul Wed Feb 21, 2018 02:31pm
Looked like good calls (or correct no calls) on all of them.

The elbow to the face appeared incidental, which occurred after the initial foul so it would be ignored (assuming college rules are similar to NFHS).

I couldn't tell what Huggins did to get the first T but I have no doubt it was deserved.

JRutledge Wed Feb 21, 2018 02:57pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by HokiePaul (Post 1017568)
Looked like good calls (or correct no calls) on all of them.

The elbow to the face appeared incidental, which occurred after the initial foul so it would be ignored (assuming college rules are similar to NFHS).

I couldn't tell what Huggins did to get the first T but I have no doubt it was deserved.
Yes, the rule is basically the same. I think there was a video review to make sure that it was nothing else considering he was hit in the face. Possible Flagrant Foul issue, but not called after the review of course.

I am sure everything was about his mouth. His actions or body language did not do anything that I would think would result in a T. So clearly he used language to the Lead who called the first T and was involved in the play in question.

Peace

so cal lurker Wed Feb 21, 2018 03:35pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1017571)
Yes, the rule is basically the same. I think there was a video review to make sure that it was nothing else considering he was hit in the face. Possible Flagrant Foul issue, but not called after the review of course.

I am sure everything was about his mouth. His actions or body language did not do anything that I would think would result in a T. So clearly he used language to the Lead who called the first T and was involved in the play in question.

Peace
Curious about mechanics. He blows his whistle and signals Huggins out. Does he need to blow the whistle there since play is dead, or could he have just signaled? Seems to me the whistle is unnecessary (though I confess to coming from the soccer bias that less is more when it comes to using the whistle).

JRutledge Wed Feb 21, 2018 04:02pm
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Originally Posted by so cal lurker (Post 1017574)
Curious about mechanics. He blows his whistle and signals Huggins out. Does he need to blow the whistle there since play is dead, or could he have just signaled? Seems to me the whistle is unnecessary (though I confess to coming from the soccer bias that less is more when it comes to using the whistle).
Every foul has a whistle. So if you are giving a Technical Foul, you need a whistle as a general rule.

Peace

KCRC Wed Feb 21, 2018 05:44pm
Thanks, Rut. Good videos...

Play #3: Anyone else have a 2 shot foul? It appears based on his follow through that the fouled player is attempting to tap the ball into his basket (part of the definition of a try). Very difficult to see in real time.

JRutledge Wed Feb 21, 2018 05:53pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by KCRC (Post 1017584)
Thanks, Rut. Good videos...

Play #3: Anyone else have a 2 shot foul? It appears based on his follow through that the fouled player is attempting to tap the ball into his basket (part of the definition of a try). Very difficult to see in real time.
Actually, I was thinking the same thing. I do not think it is that hard to see in real time, I think many officials hardly call it that way.

Peace


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