Question about a junior girls play

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Or a 5-second violation (9-10-1b)

And, I'd treat the division line the same as any other boundary line if the players tried to line up parallel to it and pass the ball on the BC side of the plane

Yes, you could go that direction too. I think the difference is the locking of hands/arms that the T requires while the 5-second rule only requires enclosure. Once they lock arms, I think that would push the call to the T.

Now, if you want to get silly with such a play, what if the offensive players formed such circle then placed the ball on the floor in the middle of their circle. The ball would not be in player control so it would be harder to call that...I think the T would be the only recourse.

[bucky]

Why not, as a defender, just walk around it, into the BC, and take the ball (if on the floor)? I realize that it is not allowed but who cares? The ref will stop the game and the defense will get what they accomplished. Yes, they could then inbound in the BC and do the same thing but come on, these are 11 year olds. What kind of coach teaches this to 11 year olds? Yikes.

How could 4 11-year-old girls occupy the entire half circle perimeter without being in an illegal position. If feet are greater than should width apart, in order to accomplish this, call an illegal screen, lol. Or, if that far apart, crawl through the legs. When the defender collapses them, call a foul on her, lol.

I do believe that locking arms/hands is illegal.

I would use a T as an absolute last resort in a game involving 11 year olds.

[CJP]

Originally Posted by narwhal

So... since team mates are allowed to touch each other and, in our league, back court defense is not allowed I'm wondering about something that I'm not sure is legal or not legal. The players in possession of the ball ran down and lined up on the half court line, joined hands but were facing the other teams basket. Because back court defense was not allowed the defending players were not able to cross the half court line to get in front of them. The guard dribbled into them where they formed a ring around the guard and closed hands together... there was really no way to reasonably break the ring without drawing a foul but i couldn't think of any reason why this technically wouldn't be allowed either. Anyway it was 11 year old girls so, there's bound to be some silliness anyway. Thoughts? Opinions?

I would go straight to a technical foul.

[just another ref]

Or, in real life, consider what kind of game it is and tell the coach: "Knock it off. That isn't basketball."

[BillyMac]

4-24-9: It is not legal to lock arms or grasp a teammate(s) in an effort to
restrict the movement of an opponent.

Team Technical: A team shall not: Allow players to lock arms or grasp a teammate(s) in an effort to
restrict the movement of an opponent.

[griblets]

Typical adult manipulation of a youth sports environment that focuses on the coach's desire to win rather than developing and teaching kids how to play.