Carrying over a warning
 

MS-G. Point guard A-1 is a feisty little thing with decent skills and a chip on her shoulder. Her chip grew when her mother was tossed from the crowd by my partner. (No game admin. Principal had a sick kid at home, came back to the school to apologize to us.)

Fourth quarter, B-2 steals the ball and goes on a 1-on-1 breakaway, with A-1 following. B-2 makes the layup as A-1 yells "miss!" I spoke with A-1 about that, telling her that's taunting and will be a T next time.

I have this team again this week, at another school. Should "next time" carry over into a new game?

No. Everyone starts with a clean slate every game. Or at least they should, IMO


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No for a couple of reasons:

A) I wouldn't have given such a warning in the first place.

B) It's a new game.

As an aside, I have had to have a fan removed without a separate game administrator present. I told the person working the table that the fan had to go and let him figure out how to handle it (it's his school). I am not going to toss a fan myself.

This.

There is nothing official to carry over, but a warning is not necessary in this case anyway. If you want to call it taunting you can call it a T without a warning.

I'm not sure how you can call that taunting. 10-4-6 specifically addresses taunting.

NOTE: The NFHS disapproves of any form of Taunting which is intended or designed to embarrass, ridicule or demean others under any circumstances.

I wouldn't place yelling "miss" under any of those. If you wanted to call it unsporting, you could maybe get away with that. That's not a hill I'm going to die on though.

Taunting is what he called it in the OP. The debate here, I think, is about giving a warning, not what actually constitutes taunting.

And, maybe you had to be there, but I agree with you.

You're right, I was more aiming comment that at OP. My bad, didn't mean to insinuate YOU were the one calling it taunting.

1) It's not taunting

2) If you deem it unsporting, then just call a T.

3) I don't think its unsporting

Agreed. It's no different than players yelling "Dead! Dead! Dead!" when a player picks up a dribble.

I wish this was taunting. If it was then I guess we could put a stop to all this "BALL! BALL! BALL!" "DEAD! DEAD! DEAD!" stuff that we all love so much.

Of course its different. "Dead" is intended to communicate to one's teammates that they don't have to help on a drive and can pressure passing lanes. The sole purpose of "miss!" is to bother an opponent. But I think it is viewed as an acceptable behavior in the world of hoops and am surprised to see it s something that would be warned or Td.

Things may not carry over, but there are players who are habitual pains in the rear that get a much shorter rope than others.

If this reached the level of unsporting, or if I'm misunderstanding the play and it really is borderline taunting, then I have zero problem with carrying over the warning. Especially considering a warning isn't required in the first place.

What about yelling "Ball Ball Ball" at spot throw-in inbounder? I think the primary purpose of that is to rattle the thrower in, but certainly not something I'd ever call unsporting, or even consider a T for.