NCAA-W SC/Mizzou Coach Ejection
 

8:14 3Q Foul called against Missouri, then Dawn Staley gets T #1

2:56 4Q A’ja Wilson fouls out, Staley refuses to replace her within the interval, tossed

Game was on ESPN2

Good!

MTD,Sr.

Yeah, I was watching it and was laughing at Staley's "shocked" reaction to the second T...play silly games, win silly prizes.

Video?

Paging JRut
 

Whoops, I should’ve specified “video request” in the thread title.

I did not record the game. I did not see any replay of the game to show the play.

Peace

South Carolina Missouri basketball: Did Tigers play dirty? | The State

Wow that is some serious contact...

You mean the flop on the first video that took place during the screen?

Peace

First play looks like an accident.

Second play I would assume had a foul call involved.

We dont have the best look at that play.

If we have the number one player I am pretty sure I could see some teams sending someone to hurt her. She hit her so hard she came out of the game.

Just my opinion with a bad video. I have no idea if there were any hints to some physical play targeted at her or not.

I dont think any of us can say with 100% surety that was an accident or sending a message....

WatchESPN has a replay if you have access to that.

Staley went into the game with a chip on her shoulder. She was upset that two of the officials worked the same matchup last year. She texted Sally Bell about the “issue,” who was supposed to do exactly what about it?

I have access to the video, but capturing it is a different story.

Peace

I saw the video of both situations. Coach Dawn Staley was being very childish. I get things are not going your way, but she was being very childish with how she handles things. For one the play where she seemed to get upset was a foul. Her top player had a charge right before where it was clearly a foul on her for driving her shoulder into the defender. Then in the press conference, she complained that "No other player that was a candidate for the best player of the year played less in the first half" or something to that nature. She really acted silly in the press conference as if the officials are supposed to care who is playing the damn game. This is exactly why in a previous thread I had no issue with what Teddy did because this behavior or entitlement is again silly. Who gives a rat's ass who her player is or who she thinks should be treating her a certain way. Missouri was kicking their behind and if she coached instead of pouted, she might have won the game.

Peace

Interesting to note the rules difference with respect to T #2. NFHS/NCAA-W this is a direct T with no warning. NCAA-M you get one warning and then it’s a Class B.

I don’t think NCAA-M gives a warning for failure to replace a disqualified player. The coach has 15 seconds and then it’s a Class B. Am I missing something?

It's one of the 4 DOG warnings. I just looked it up to confirm.

Failure to replace a DQ’d player and not being ready to play on the second horn following a TO are lumped together in NCAA-M for one of the four delay warnings.

So I guess if a coach pulled a stunt like this you’d warn him, then start another 15 seconds, then T if he still hasn’t put anyone in.

This popped today on my Google Feed:

SEC officiating came under fire at Mizzou Arena | Eye on the Tigers | stltoday.com


Apparently Staley was complaining about the assigned officials before the game started:

"Staley went on to connect the assignment of the game's officials to her team’s NCAA Tournament implications. Staley contacted SEC coordinator of officials Sally Bell to lodge a complaint about the officials — before Sunday’s tipoff."


Her response to not replacing her player:

"“Beats me,” she said. “They told me I had to go. I didn’t say anything. I just sat there.”"

Video of Staley's press conference

This was on the link that someone else highlighted earlier. Look at her comments about the situation.

Peace

The "dirty" plays at that link are hard to get upset about. The angle is bad on the first one but you can see that gold 21 didn't have sufficient velocity to result in the reaction that occurred. That looks like a player who is playing like a victim and trying to garner sympathy from the officials. Just play.

The second one looks like a lot of the same. I believe they called a foul on gold 3 on that play, but the defender's reaction is over the top. Again, looks like a victim. Just play.

I think that a coach that tell their players they are being cheated and are the victim of bad calls is doing them a disservice. Just play your game.

From the Mizzou men's game the day before.

https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/sta...33955275763717

So?

Yeah, it is a foul if you hit the elbow or wrist before the follow through.

Peace

It was linked in an article previously linked and was a controversial call in the game the day before. Just thought I would share.

That shot was in the last 30 seconds and allowed UF to tie the game. And the shot missed long, so I'm not sure how much, if any, contact there was.

Said the guy from Missouri....

haha, yes. I have outed myself as a Missouri homer multiple times. There were some brutal calls/no calls down the stretch of the UF game. This was just one.

Having watched the game, there was no whistle on play #1 but the officials went to the monitor and determined the contact did not rise to the level an unsporting foul. There was a foul called against the Missouri player on the second video.

Do you have some timestamps so Jeff can post the plays?

From camera angle I can't tell if there is contact or not.

But this is why I officiate sideline oriented in the Trail. If he had dropped low along the sideline he would have had a clear view between defender and shooter.

Since when does an official use the word "brutal" when describing officiating?

I just don't understand how anyone can officiate and still be an unabashed homer.

I guess Ms. Staley wasn't sure which way the wind was blowing, and which day of the week it was

So you've never seen a call that you didn't agree with? You've never seen a call and thought, "woof, that was a bad one"? That's all I'm saying. And as an admitted homer in this situation my perception is admitted skewed. There were a bunch of calls/no calls down the stretch of that game that went away from my team when I thought they shouldn't have, so yes, those are "brutal" for my team. Not for one second did I think "these refs are against us" or any other type of nonsense.

So if anyone is an alumnus that cheers for their school, or has a favorite team, they can't be an official!? That seems a bit over the top. My homerism for Mizzou renders me incapable of officiating a high school game?! I'm sure you can guess I'm not officiating SEC games.

I knew better than to comment on a Mizzou thread. I will refrain from such comments in the future.

I have seen calls I did not like as an official where I am a huge fan of the team. But I do not call those calls "brutal" or accuse the officials of any more than just making a mistake. Actually I tend to think there are calls that I might not agree with, I tend to understand why those calls were made.

And yes I cheer for my team, even been to a Final Four and Rose Bowl in person. And I never go off as an official.

I had an official just yesterday who I respected a lot until yesterday that was at his son's or relative's high school game who was constantly making comments to me and crew all game. He is a mostly college official that does not work a lot of high school ball anymore because he was not advancing. He works small college for the most part and was constantly making comments to us about calls and situations. I was flabbergasted honestly. I thought that was just very unprofessional and the fact that you are an official you should conduct yourself in a way or act as if the shoe could be on the other foot.

Peace

I approach my kid's games and my favorite team's games in the same manner.

Just root for my kids and my team. Other than that, I generally keep my mouth shut whether watching at home or in mixed company. Mistakes happen. I'm ok with mistakes in the sense we are humans striving to get better every minute - every play - every game. (I'm not saying be gone with accountability. Don't get me wrong. )

That's part of what I love about officiating and watching other guys/gals work, though. The striving to work smart, communicate and do a better job every time out.

I know there are a lot of officials out there that probably don't share my attitude and approach. That's ok.

When you decide to become an official, you're held to a higher standard, including the way you act when you're a fan. If I'm officiating a game and notice an official in the stands acting up, not only will the assigner get a phone call after the game, but my threshold for when I have that individual removed by game management will be lower.

Some would say that's being petty. Tough nuts. Don't act like an idiot.

No, I never use the word brutal. I try to understand the call and know how hard the job is and that none of them want to make mistakes.

I don't watch games like the typical fan / fanboi / homer. Ever.

Or a novel idea, speak about specific plays and see if anyone call pull up the video.

"Brutal" is not a technical term.