Intentional fouls, end of game

[just another ref]

Is this another thing that "the rule is what it is, but you just don't call that" now, or at least more than it was a few years ago? Around here I see more and more blatant grabs around the waist from behind with nothing that resembles a play on the ball called a common foul.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Is this another thing that "the rule is what it is, but you just don't call that" now, or at least more than it was a few years ago? Around here I see more and more blatant grabs around the waist from behind with nothing that resembles a play on the ball called a common foul.

Sounds like something you need to bring up with your local rules interpreters.

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[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Is this another thing that "the rule is what it is, but you just don't call that" now, or at least more than it was a few years ago? Around here I see more and more blatant grabs around the waist from behind with nothing that resembles a play on the ball called a common foul.

I'd say the reverse -- since it became emphasized at NCAA and FED, these incidents have lessened.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Is this another thing that "the rule is what it is, but you just don't call that" now, or at least more than it was a few years ago?.

The only change that I can think of is that many years ago the NFHS recognized that coaches used a time management strategy and were allowed to tell their players to foul their opponent. Previous to that change, if a coach instructed their players to foul their opponents, it was always considered to be an intentional foul. Now, the NFHS allows such strategy, and such fouls are no longer "automatic" intentionals but must still meet the requirements of being intentional (no play on the ball, defense grabs the jersey, pushes from behind, or bear hugs the offensive player).

[CJP]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The only change that I can think of is that many years ago the NFHS recognized that coaches used a time management strategy and were allowed to tell their players to foul their opponent. Previous to that change, if a coach instructed their players to foul their opponents, it was always considered to be an intentional foul. Now, the NFHS allows such strategy, and such fouls are no longer "automatic" intentionals but must still meet the requirements of being intentional (no play on the ball, defense grabs the jersey, pushes from behind, or bear hugs the offensive player).

I never understood this. When I previously coached, my instructions were to go for a steal aggressively. If the kids gets called for a foul, then so be it; the clock stops.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by CJP

I never understood this.

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, back in my middle school basketball coaching days, friends who were officials instructed me to use a code word rather than yell, "Foul". Our code word was, "Steal the ball". When I yelled that my players knew to foul, while still going for the ball, in order to stop the clock.