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Travel vs. Carry vs. Legal
Had this situation occur in a game the other day and there is some debate within my group as to what the correct call is. Player drives to the basket for a layup. While doing so he takes the ball and puts it on his hip with his hand underneath. The progression was then left step, right step, layup.
Current viewpoints are that this is a legal drive to the basket, a carry, or a travel. Some believe that anytime the player puts the ball on his hip with hand underneath that this is a carry. Others believe that in order for a carry to be called that the player must dribble the ball again. A few feel that after he hips the ball that he then has one step and a layup, since he took 2 this is a travel. Thoughts? |
Did he gather with both feet off the ground?
Was his right foot his pivot foot? If so, it was a travel. If not, it was legal. For the "carry" crowd. A carry is an illegal dribble. How do they call an illegal dribble if the player is no longer dribbling the ball? By their definition, every time a player ends his/her dribble, it's a carry. Tell them to think about that for a moment. |
I don't believe the word "hip" is anywhere in the rule. Tell them to stop reading into things so much.
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Example: Player is dribbling and allows the ball to come to rest in one hand, taking three steps, with no additional dribble, while the ball is being carried/palmed. In reality, we don't really need a carrying/palming rule. The travel rule, or the dribble rule, will take care of all types of carrying/palming. There is no carrying/palming listed under Rule 9 Violations, but there is a signal on the signal chart. Odd? |
As the others said, it depends on what happens next. Trapping/pinning/catching the ball on the hip with the hand just end the dribble. If the player just stops there, you have nothing. If the player dribbles again, it is an illegal dribble that we classify as a carry for clarity. If the player moves his/her feet in excess of the limits for traveling, they have traveled. It is possible they continue to a shot without violating.
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But the problem is every time a player has his hands in a particular location, people yell about a carry when it clearly is not a carry or the ball never comes to rest. You do not want to be overly technical on any rule that will open up a can of worms by making those calls. And usually, it is typical to call those when there is an actual move that is used to try to get by a defender. Simply standing in one place is not going to draw a violation unless you want to be calling them all night. If you are talking about sub-varsity officials and what they call, we have an issue there alone. I do not expect sub-varsity officials to call anything as they should or they would not be working sub-varsity games in the first place. Peace |
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