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Old Wed Dec 06, 2017, 02:57pm
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High School Basketbal Fees per State

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I am trying to gather a comprehensive sheet of high school state basketball fees. Here is what I have gathered so far. V3 = Varsity 3 Person, V2 = Varsity 2 Person, SV2 = Sub-Varisy 2 Person SV3 = Sub-Varsity 3 Person. Please PM me or post any information that you have that is missing or incorrect,


2017-2018 V3 V2 SV3 SV2
State
Alabama $55.00 - $40.00 $45.00
Alaska - - - -
Arizona - $68.00 - $58.00
Arkansas - - - -
California $47.00 $71.00 - $51.00
Colorado $50.00 $58.00 $38.50 $44.00
Connecticut - $95.00 - $61.00
Delaware $73.00 $73.00 $63.00 $63.00
Florida $50.00 $55.00 - $45.00
Georgia $56.00 $67.00 - $46.00
Hawaii - - - -
Idaho - - - -
Illinois - - - -
Indiana - - - -
Iowa $65.00 - - -
Kansas - - - -
Kentucky $45.00 $55.00 - -
Louisiana $50.00 $60.00 - -
Maine - - - -
Maryland - - - -
Massachusetts - $82.00 - $60.00
Michigan - $63.00 - -
Minnesota - - - -
Mississippi $55.00 $60.00 - $40.00
Missouri - - - -
Montana $60.00 $60.00 $30.50 $36.00
Nebraska - - - -
Nevada $65.25 $53.25 $41.50 $47.00
New Hampshire - - - -
New Jersey - - - -
New Mexico - $54.00 - $38.00
New York - $91.00 - $68.50
North Carolina $66.00 - $56.00 $61.00
North Dakota - $71.50 - $40.50
Ohio - $80.00 - -
Oklahoma $50.00 $50.00 $35.00 $35.00
Oregon $56.00 $66.00 $42.00 $49.50
Pennsylvania - $68.00 - $58.00
Rhode Island - - - -
South Carolina $55.00 - $37.00 -
South Dakota - - - -
Tennessee $65.00 $75.00 $65.00 $75.00
Texas $70.00 $70.00 $50.00 $50.00
Utah - $59.00 - $44.00
Vermont - - - -
Virginia - - - -
Washington - $60.25 - $45.00
West Virginia - - - -
Wisconsin - - - -
Wyoming $55.00 $55.00 - -


Some States don't do two man some don't do three man so that information is helpful also. Thanks for any assistance
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Your table is going to get a lot more complicated.

Some, Oregon included, pay different rates depending on the Classification.

And to be a fair comparison, you have to include travel. Some states pay travel, some don't but pay a somewhat higher game fee. Some states pay one rate for a single game or the first game in a double header and a lessor amount for the second game.
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Old Wed Dec 06, 2017, 03:22pm
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South Carolina is still paying travel. All varsity games are 3-man.

One game (rare): $55
Two games: $78

$0.45 per mile with a minimum travel fee of $9. So if you work two varsity games the minimum you would gross is $87.
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Old Wed Dec 06, 2017, 03:22pm
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Your table is going to get a lot more complicated.

Some, Oregon included, pay different rates depending on the Classification.

And to be a fair comparison, you have to include travel. Some states pay travel, some don't but pay a somewhat higher game fee. Some states pay one rate for a single game or the first game in a double header and a lessor amount for the second game.
Some include a fee that the referee then pays back to the assigner; some pay the officials a fee and have the school send a separate fee to an assigner. Etc.
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Old Wed Dec 06, 2017, 03:30pm
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Your table is going to get a lot more complicated.

Some, Oregon included, pay different rates depending on the Classification.

And to be a fair comparison, you have to include travel. Some states pay travel, some don't but pay a somewhat higher game fee. Some states pay one rate for a single game or the first game in a double header and a lessor amount for the second game.
Thanks, I know that there are a plethora of anomalies but am mostly looking for fees for 2-man or 3-man Varsity contests at the highest classification. I have a separate column I am tracking for mileage but obviously gets confusing between how much per mile, vs flat fee, vs mileage after a certain amount of miles, vs a Per Diem. Totally understand your point.

Most states there is a set fee assigned by the state association for contests at each level. States like Iowa it is done per district and there are even a few states that the schools negotiate with each ref (contractor) individually. Obviously mileage/travel is a moving target, but I tried to capture the most information with not too much clutter (3-man lower level is rare and can probably be ignored).
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Old Wed Dec 06, 2017, 04:08pm
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Most states there is a set fee assigned by the state association for contests at each level...
In Virginia fees are negotiated by association commissioners. These contracts can either be with individual schools (usually private schools) or entire conferences.
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Old Wed Dec 06, 2017, 04:10pm
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In Virginia fees are negotiated by association commissioners. These contracts can either be with individual schools (usually private schools) or entire conferences.
Is there a range or average from what you have seen?
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Old Wed Dec 06, 2017, 04:23pm
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Is there a range or average from what you have seen?
It's actually been as high as $75 for a Varsity game in my local area and came down to accommodate 3-man for Girls games. I'm on 2 boards and the range is about $60-65 per Varsity game. I'm thinking those rates would be much hire in Northern VA near and within the Beltway.
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Thanks, I know that there are a plethora of anomalies but am mostly looking for fees for 2-man or 3-man Varsity contests at the highest classification. I have a separate column I am tracking for mileage but obviously gets confusing between how much per mile, vs flat fee, vs mileage after a certain amount of miles, vs a Per Diem. Totally understand your point.

Most states there is a set fee assigned by the state association for contests at each level. States like Iowa it is done per district and there are even a few states that the schools negotiate with each ref (contractor) individually. Obviously mileage/travel is a moving target, but I tried to capture the most information with not too much clutter (3-man lower level is rare and can probably be ignored).
Ultimately, what matters is how much the official actually receives for doing the game, regardless of all of the methods of determining that amount. Seeing a $20 difference between states doesn't mean much if the lower state pays $20 in travel while the higher state doesn't pay travel. Compiling a list of the only one term in the equation is like predicting who will win a basketball game by calculating how tall the starters are.
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Old Wed Dec 06, 2017, 04:52pm
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Ultimately, what matters is how much the official actually receives for doing the game, regardless of all of the methods of determining that amount. Seeing a $20 difference between states doesn't mean much if the lower state pays $20 in travel while the higher state doesn't pay travel. Compiling a list of the only one term in the equation is like predicting who will win a basketball game by calculating how tall the starters are.
Correct which is why I stated that I was also collecting travel/mileage.
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Old Wed Dec 06, 2017, 05:46pm
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It's actually been as high as $75 for a Varsity game in my local area and came down to accommodate 3-man for Girls games. I'm on 2 boards and the range is about $60-65 per Varsity game. I'm thinking those rates would be much hire in Northern VA near and within the Beltway.
I've worked in the Southwest part of the state and Northern VA.

Around Roanoke (2015):
Varsity 3-man: $87
JV 2-Man: $65
MS 3-Man: $65

NoVA (Current):
Varsity 3-man: $91 is the highest for private schools, $72-$85 for public
Varsity 2-man: $75
JV 2-man: $65 average

Note that there is another association in Nothern VA, so their rates may differ. I'd say the average is somewhere around $75.
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I can't speak for PA--it's a big state!--but in the two SE PA (in the suburbs outside of Philadelphia) leagues I work, I get $60 and $66 for 2-ref jv games, so your PA figures are low. Although I am not certain, but I think that varsity refs, working 3-ref, get $72 and $75. No mileage.
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CA is by Section, of which there are 13. The largest is the Sac-Joaquin Section which covers Sacramento.

Sac-Joaquin Section fees this year are:
V3 = $52.66 (3-way split of the 2-person fee, only used in a few tournaments during the regular season)
[Playoffs pay more for a 3-person crew, about $73 each.]
V2 = $79
SV3 = not used
SV2 = $57

No travel fee in this Section.
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Wyoming rates

Wyoming is $60 for all V and negotiated for JV, but generally $55 2 or 3.

FWIW we get paid 1 mileage for the crew at IRS rate, round trip. (crews decide how to split, if not all to driver) and 4 cents per mile RT per diem/per official.

Most, not all, contracts are double headers, GV and BV. Some small schools are 4 games with JV included, mostly because they don't have local officials.

Some of my games this year will be as far as 380 miles RT. The closest game is 90 miles RT.
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Illinois does not have one fee other than playoffs. All areas and conferences have their own standards of payment which can range from private school conferences or different parts of the state. There is no one type of payment.

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