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bondguy Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:35am

Video Request: Missouri vs. West Virginia
 
With 2:13 remaining the first half, the officials shoot double bonus on a team control foul by Missouri.

Scrapper1 Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:55am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondguy (Post 1012082)
With 2:13 remaining the first half, the officials shoot double bonus on a team control foul by Missouri.

Loose ball foul?

JRutledge Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:07pm

There is a new rule that if a foul takes place during a loose ball (while TC has not officially ended) you shoot FTs in those situations. Only NCAA BTW

Right now I did not record that game. Sorry, but I will try to find it.

Peace

AremRed Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondguy (Post 1012082)
With 2:13 remaining the first half, the officials shoot double bonus on a team control foul by Missouri.

You know they changed the NCAA-M rule on that this year, right?

Here is the play:

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JRutledge Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:16pm

Looks like a loose ball foul to me.

Peace

#olderthanilook Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:54pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1012095)
Looks like a loose ball foul to me.

Peace

I thought so, at first, too. After looking at the video a few times, it looks like A1 gains control with a single dribble a half moment before B1 displaces him while pursuing the ball.

Tilmon just couldn't slow his big frame down to avoid contact.

Common foul.

JRutledge Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:59pm

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Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 1012102)
I thought so, at first, too. After looking at the video a few times, it looks like A1 gains control with a single dribble a half moment before B1 displaces him while pursuing the ball.

Tilmon just couldn't slow his big frame down to avoid contact.

Common foul.

I would not consider that a dribble. I would consider trying to get the ball and not any control. But you make an interesting point and the reason I think this rule was not a very good change because you will have plays like this that might be up for debate of control or when the foul occurred. If this happened in a high school game, I would have considered this a team control foul and we would not have shot FTs. But that is me based on the one angle they gave us, which to me might not tell the entire story from the official's perspective.

Peace

bondguy Thu Nov 30, 2017 02:16pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 1012094)
You know they changed the NCAA-M rule on that this year, right?

Nope, I wasn't aware of the change. Thanks.

SC Official Thu Nov 30, 2017 02:31pm

I love this rule change and wish FED would adopt it.

bob jenkins Thu Nov 30, 2017 02:51pm

Just FYI, NCAA-W did not change the rule.


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