Test results

[just another ref]

We got our test results today. I have serious issues with a couple of questions. Perhaps somebody here can point out what I'm missing.

It is possible for a charge to be called on the offensive player while the defensive player is moving.

I put true and it's marked wrong.


???

[just another ref]

And here's the other: A1 dives for a loose ball, gaining possession, and coming to a stop. A1 then releases the ball on the floor, gets up, and picks up the ball. The official signals a traveling violation.

This is true, is it not?

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by just another ref

And here's the other: A1 dives for a loose ball, gaining possession, and coming to a stop. A1 then releases the ball on the floor, gets up, and picks up the ball. The official signals a traveling violation.

This is true, is it not?

Don't you have to have possession of the ball for it to be traveling...

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Don't you have to have possession of the ball for it to be traveling...

Yes, with one exception -- and this is it. 4.44.5B

[BEAREF]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Yes, with one exception -- and this is it. 4.44.5B

Here's rule 4.44.5B

ART. 5

Traveling is moving a foot or feet in any direction in excess of prescribed limits while holding the ball. The limits on foot movements are as follows:

A player holding the ball:

a. May not touch the floor with a knee or any other part of the body other than hand or foot.

b. After gaining control while on the floor and touching with other than hand or foot, may not attempt to get up or stand.

Please explain how pertains to the original post...

Originally Posted by BEAREF

Here's rule 4.44.5B

Close, you actually quoted 4-44-5. There’s a difference.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BEAREF

Here's rule 4.44.5B

ART. 5

Traveling is moving a foot or feet in any direction in excess of prescribed limits while holding the ball. The limits on foot movements are as follows:

A player holding the ball:

a. May not touch the floor with a knee or any other part of the body other than hand or foot.

b. After gaining control while on the floor and touching with other than hand or foot, may not attempt to get up or stand.

Please explain how pertains to the original post...

Now consult your Case Book.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BEAREF

Here's rule 4.44.5B

ART. 5

Traveling is moving a foot or feet in any direction in excess of prescribed limits while holding the ball. The limits on foot movements are as follows:

A player holding the ball:

a. May not touch the floor with a knee or any other part of the body other than hand or foot.

b. After gaining control while on the floor and touching with other than hand or foot, may not attempt to get up or stand.

Please explain how pertains to the original post...

Bob cited a case book play. The exact one for this situation. You quoted the rule. Rules are dashes, case book plays are ....periods.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Don't you have to have possession of the ball for it to be traveling...

This is the "one exception" to the travelling rule that is often cited on this board.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by just another ref

We got our test results today. I have serious issues with a couple of questions. Perhaps somebody here can point out what I'm missing.

It is possible for a charge to be called on the offensive player while the defensive player is moving.

I put true and it's marked wrong.


???

Yes. Once a defensive player has obtained (NFHS) a LGP, he/she may move to maintain it and if there is contact with the player in control of the ball when the contact occurs, the offensive player is responsible for the contact as long as the defensive player is not moving obliquely toward the player with the ball.

I do not have my rules books with me but you will fund the definition of LGP in Rule 4 under Guarding in the NFHS, NCAA Men's, and NCAA Women's Rules Books. The wording will be exactly the same except that the NCAA still uses the word "establish" instead of the word "obtain". The NFHS made the change about 20 years ago. The FIBA definition is also exactly the same (it also uses the word " establish") but I do not remember which Rule it is in in the FUBA Rules Book.

MTD, Sr.

[Camron Rust]

You are correct on both questions.