2017-18 NFHS Basketball Part I Test
 

Does anyone have a copy of the current test. I wanted to get a jump on it as I have some time this weekend.

You can private message me...

Thanks.... Jess

That's a copyrighted item...you decide whether that's an important distinction or not.

So, by your sign-in name you are/or want to be " a great zebra."

So one way to do that is to study the current test, which some might call cheating, and then take that exam or one very close?

I don't quite understand that.

Or he/she could be from a state that does not take the test at all. Or it is an open book test and getting the test means nothing to the answers.

My state does not take the NF test and has not for probably 10 years now, they make their own test which is fewer questions and not True-False. Getting the test would be great to use for other reasons than cheating on a test. IJS. :)

Peace

We take a 50 question test. I have copies of my test's from the 2012 season to now. They are great to use for situations, meetings, teaching tool.

I come from Utah, the test isn't out yet here, i know it is out in other states. I have time this weekend to go through it but no access. I dont want the answers just the questions then monday i could supply the answers to achieve atleast a 95 or better.

Easy fellas!
 

Taken care of Zebra, if he wants it just or viewing!
:)

Wtf man, it’s a freaking open-book test. How exactly is that cheating??

Maybe in your location.....

Well unless we know where he/she (the OPer) is located, we cannot quite call it cheating, can we?

Also, I took the test for another state and this was the dumbest test ever. I am so glad my home state got rid of this test some time ago. How many questions do we need to have asked about how many inches a line is on the court? Or better yet, I really need to know the exact diameter size of the basket ring? Chances are if we do not have the right line size on a court that is listed in the rulebook, we have bigger fish to fry.

Peace

In South Carolina we have to take this stupid test to be certified (open book, three attempts, 70% required) AND an even stupider closed-book in-person exam in Columbia which is what factors into our rating.

And I'm with JRut.

Who Said Cheaters Never Prosper ???
 

For many years here in my little corner of Connecticut, we would take the annual IAABO Refresher Exam as an individual, at home, open book test, and send in the answers to be graded to count toward our rating and ranking.

There was just too much cheating going on. A few guys would somehow get access to the answer sheet, often from friends in other states, and share it with their local friends, often discussing the correct answers as a small group, in someone's living room, or at someone's dining room table (often with refreshments served, I knew of one group where everyone would chip in five bucks for pizza and beer). In some cases guys would simply copy the correct answers to their own exam, not even reading the questions. Guys with no access to the answer sheet, or to friends holding group discussions (in other words, the way the Exam was supposed to be taken), were at a major disadvantage (the annual IAABO Refresher Exam can be very tricky. Not as tricky a JRutledge's inside, and/or outside, diameter of the rim, but still pretty tricky).

The Refresher Exam, as a rating tool, became ineffective. Eventually the powers to be just through up their hands and gave up, basically legalizing what was going on illegally.

We still use the IAABO Refresher Exam. We still take it as an individual, at home, open book test. The next step is to bring our answered exam to one of about a dozen and a half Refresher Exam meetings held at various times at various locations. You must have an answered exam to get into one of these meetings (even if all the questions are answered incorrectly, nobody checks for incorrect answers, just for an answered, completed exam). Attendance is strictly taken at these meetings. At these meetings a leader has the correct answers, and we discuss each question, eventually get the correct answer, and get to ask followup questions. Some leaders even provide copies of the answer sheet with answer citations.

We no longer use the Refresher Exam for our ratings process. However, the penalty for not showing up at one of these board-sponsored Refresher Exam meeting is quite severe, no game assignments for the season, so it behooves us to show up.

(Note: Do not confuse this with the initial exam to join IAABO. That's still given as an individual, closed book exam, at one location, in a proctored setting.)

But someone needs to tell me how is an open book test that is given without specific time limit (like 2 hours for example) is cheating? We have an open book test and it is common for people to go over the test together. If they want a test to be secret or like you would take an exam when you were in school, then require everyone to take the exam.

How about this one. Stop putting so much emphasis on a test?

Peace

Not everyone lives in your little corner of the world and there is more than one way that people do things. Just because it is an open book test in your area doesn't mean it is everywhere. In fact, it isn't.

But then do not get on people as if they are doing something wrong when they might be doing what is expected or accepted. If you live a state that worries about these things, then worry about the people from your state. Not everyone in the country even takes the NF test at all. Glad my main state does not. But if someone needs to get a question like:

I am sorry, this is one of the dumbest questions that are on the test. It is not only a silly question, are we going to measure to find out on each court? Are we going to not play if it is not the right answer? We have all seen a basketball court and been around the court at some point in our lives. Great to know what these measurements are, but if we cannot get a backcourt violation rule right or we do not know when LGP takes place or is established, that is a bigger issue than knowing the rim is 19 inches or 20 inches. ;)

Peace

I understand what you are saying and agree mostly but....

Having people take tests is not always about the questions. It might be about some but certainly not all. In my experience in the education/training fields, in situations like these it is more about people just getting into the material. In looking up an answer to say, a silly question such as yours, people will see/read other, more pertinent information. They will get browsing/reading and covering so much more material than just what the question needed. This is the main point of many, not all, associations/etc. that have officials take open book tests. It often times, gets people together, which spurs rules/cases conversation, build camaraderie, etc. Indeed, many questions are silly, but the end result is that many get somewhat better.

Just my two cents, not looking for a debate/argument.

I am not saying do not take a test. Testing is fine with me, but if you are going to have one, then test the right things. If NF (or anyone) had that as the only question like that, but I recall 5 or 6 at least asking for the line or measurement information.

Nothing to debate or argue, it is my opinion. Take it for what it is worth.

But most of those real rules conversations I see people have are often at the bar or actual situations that happen in games (or other levels).

Peace

70% . . . on an open book test?!?!? Wow. I guess you have to start somewhere . . .

There’s really no reason why we take the NFHS exam at all because we have our own exam that is actually more important. They say it is for “certification,” whatever that means. NFHS exam is merely a formality for us I guess to incentivize us to get in the rules. Although when you only require a 70% and three attempts (and no rating impact) that takes away from that incentive.

There are a lot of better ways to learn the rules than taking a test. Because if all you do is look in the rulebooks or casebook because of a test, that is not a very good way to learn the rules, let alone how to officiate. You have to constantly be reading and learning from someone or something. I just like better questions that really teach you the rules of the game that you will apply, not the way things you will never actually verify one way or the other.

Peace

Help...so nervous
 

Does anyone have the current exam? Even though it's open book my nerves are getting the best of me. Please private message me. Thanks in advance.

Within a few days of posting the request for a copy of the test I got a PDF of it, Worked through the test for a couple of days, then on the morning it was opened to me on the Arbiter, November 1st I took the test, submitted it at 8:36 AM and found I got a 99%. Now for the next two months, I have to wait to find out which one I missed. It will drive me nuts, well at least make me wonder.

There are lots of stupid questions, but I think the point of the test is to get our noses in the book. In my state, Utah you can officiate getting an 80% and it is open book, also an open book on part 2.

If some think I was promoting cheating, I am sorry. I simply wanted to get a head start, had a free weekend to work on it.

Peace, HavaGr8day

Having more time for an exam, or "a head start" as you call it, is a form of cheating. Why not just take it during the time that your state provides? That would be the honorable way.

So if a state gives you 3 months to take the test and you got the test a week earlier, you have cheated? Really????

Peace

And if you submit the exam just two days later, have you completed it on-time?

I guess that would depend on where you live now wouldn't it?

I know in my state as an example we get all the test questions to review and can only submit the test online. There were times that we got what those questions were if you knew the right person. You still had to go through the test and figure out the answers. I do not see why timing matters unless we are talking about a test you have to take on-site on a specific set of days. But again, if a test is open book and has a large window, I do not see how seeing the test makes much difference.

Peace

Perfectly said!!!!!! My state is the same way.

Some of you need to calm down, not take yourselves so seriously, and quit jumping on people.

Same with refs in my area. We get together and do the open book test. It's a great way to get discussion going on various topics. Even though our test is open book, it's not easy. Great way to get ready for the season.

I agree with JRut about questions about lines and the size of the ring. Who cares? I just assume all of that is fine when I walk into the gym. I'm there to do my job and not measure anything.

Really? Cheating? Some of you people need to chill out.

What's the difference if he worked on it October 30 & 31 when he had time and took the test on November 1 as opposed to working on it November 1 & 2 then taking it on November 3?

It's the same damn thing. He had a free weekend and wanted to get it out of the way. Maybe he has 3 kids and another job and other things that take up his time. He had some free time and wanted to get the test done.

No big deal at all!!!!!!!!!

Your state sounds just like mine and I agree with you 100%.

Cheating in my book is when I get the answers from some other means than studying them out for myself. Cheating is getting the answers is from someone other than myself. I feel CLEAR in my conscious that I did not cheat getting my 99%

Cheating would be one of you asking for my test answers.

If you can justify it that way, good for you.

In most domains, it is considered cheating to get a copy of an exam before the exam is released so that you can study the answers ahead of time.

If it was of no advantage, why not just wait until it was released? If it was an advantage, that would confirm it was cheating.

Fellas. Take a step back. This may be the most ridiculous argument I've ever seen on here and I've observed some asinine positions. Why don't you guys take a timeout until the season starts and you have something worthwhile to get worked up about instead of some holier-than-thou crap about a guy "cheating" on an open book test. Maybe we call it the seatbelt rule for this forum. Good lord.

Advantage <> Cheating.

Unintended advantage == Cheating.

It is basic ethics and integrity. Unfortunately, some don't have a problem stepping over the lines.

Agreed!!!

Starting and/or finishing your task (test) on your own ahead of schedule is not cheating. Don't let some of the self important people on this site make you think otherwise.

Man, you are dense. He had an open day or two to get it done, why wait until the official window of time to do it? What if he was extremely busy during the official window?

He did it on his own a day or two early. Those of us with kids and limited free time can understand. He didn't get any answers from anybody and looked at the OPEN BOOK questions a couple of days in advance. What's the big deal?

What exactly was the "unintended advantage"?

He finished an open book test on his own on day 1 of a 30 day window. Would it make you feel better if he finished it on day 3 of the window? That's what we are talking about here.

Relax a little. You are not God's gift to officiating.

Neither are you, based on the malarky you normally post on this forum.

Never said I was and I'm not the one bashing somebody and trying to pass on my version of ethics. I would like to think that we could support each other and pass information along. Rather than rip somebody in a situation that doesn't concern us/you and we don't know the whole story.

Malarky? Great word. I don't post much, but I don't think I would classify it as malarky. I guess we know what you think of yourself.

If we are talking about the NF test, many states take them at different times. Some take the test in the summer. Some have their own test. And unless you are getting the answers, there is no way cheating. We talk about the answers in many associations and because it is an open book test. The test results are almost meaningless unless you really need that extra power point. And since it is an open book test, if the state had an issue with this, they would tell us. It is pretty common people get most of the answers or wait to submit their test until they have reviewed it. No one here really cares. It has been that way long before I officiated and the NF test was sent to us in the mid-90s. So it is possible this guy wanted the test because like many of us will take the test and look up all the answers and references that fit the test.

Again, some people really need to stick to what happens in their area and get upset if someone is violating some rules where you live. But in this age of the internet, people will get a national publication before their state will give it to them. And unless they are violating those rules, we have no idea what is cheating to their area.

Peace

+1

I don't think anyone really "cares" that this guy got the test questions ahead of time. I think people "care" about the fact that he tries to act like it's not unethical. If you got the exam questions ahead of time in a college class and your professor found out, I highly doubt he would be okay with it.

Sort of like referees that don't report their income just because they don't get 1099's. Sure, you probably won't get caught. Sure, it doesn't really affect me at all. But, it's still unlawful, and to act like it's "okay" is just ridiculous.

Well said JRut! I agree with your take.

Ladies and gentlemen, the ethics police is in the house!!!!!!!!

Comparing an open book referee test to a closed book college test is reaching at best.

Actually, my comparison said nothing about the hypothetical college test being closed book. The professor's reaction would still be the same.

Clearly you have some reading comprehension issues yourself.

No, I read just fine. I guess I just didn't attend a university that allowed me to take a test as open book. Apparently you did, or assume that some colleges allow that.

In the end, taking an open book referee test when you want compared to a college test is nowhere near the same thing. Comparing the two just makes you look like a bigger fool.

Quit trying to force your morals on others and get over yourself. Can't believe how the OP is getting ripped by some of you holier than thou types on this board. I would hope we could help each other along and share information rather than rip each other impose your morals.

I actually did take a couple of tests in college that was open book. Not common, but that is what happened. We were given the test questions before and could review before the actual testing time.


I think it is a silly comparison to talk about what happens in a college exam where there might be some standards for a professor to a test that might be taken across the country and each professor comes up with their own test and how they administer the test.

If he is not from your state, then why would you or I care what he thinks or what the result of the test does when it has nothing to do with you and me? Testing is done so different from one place to another, getting a test early does not mean you are unethical. It just means you like reviewing the test early. And professors in my experience often had study sessions before a final and often we went over questions that were going to be asked on the test.

I think that is a bad comparison. People are owed deductions they do not report or do not give other information properly because they did not know they were supposed to. That is why you go to a professional for that help and even then things are done improperly. I do not see the IRS going after everyone that does not report certain things of their income either.

Peace

I took a calculus exam in college that was open book, and not only that, but we had a week to complete it. It happens.

I did too...and the best score was still just over 60%, even though it was open book. I still have nightmares about that one! :eek:

You are so funny man.


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He gained no advantage. He didnt even get brownie points for turning in the test faster than others. Our state normally opens this up in Mid Oct. Dunno why they opened it closed it and said we must wait until Nov 1 to see a national test that was out there. I like Jess was excited to work on it. How was an advantage gained? No one cares what score we get.

In fact we had a situation last year where the test 2 came out and had a question about a technical free throw after the horn in a tied game. The big time referees who just took the test and cheated by copying the answers got the ruling wrong in the game and they didnt have OT. That is pure cheating. He said he got the questions so he could study an open book test...

Bud you are something else. Glad Jess is ignoring you. Glad you are ignoring the dictionary definition of the word and what it means. Thanks for others who have come to Jess defense. No reason. Clearly someone is looking for drama when there is so many better things to discuss.