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ChuckElias Mon Oct 06, 2003 01:32pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Mouth guards
 
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
It might be over-reaching in basketball,but I don't think that it is for contact sports.
I agree. In football and lacrosse, where contact to the head happens all the time, I can see that the risk is significant and may justify an across-the-board mandate.

Mark Padgett Mon Oct 06, 2003 03:58pm

I think a more protective piece of equipment to require for basketball would be "nard guards".

Jurassic Referee Mon Oct 06, 2003 04:40pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
I think a more protective piece of equipment to require for basketball would be "nard guards".

I thought <b>NardGuard</b> was a male deodorant?

som44 Tue Oct 07, 2003 04:48pm

Mouthguards are required in New Hampshire--we even have to enforce the rule while players are warming up--i don't like it but it is the rule

Nevadaref Tue Oct 07, 2003 06:27pm

I guess Johnny Damon should have been wearing a mouthguard! ;)

Nevadaref Tue Oct 07, 2003 06:38pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Do you enforce the jewelry rule in basketball?
Yes, because it is not paternal. The point of the rule is more for preventing others from being injured by a player's jewelry than himself.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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If you did football,and a player didn't want to wear his helmet,would you go along with that if the parents and coach were in agreement?
Yes. It is his decision to protect himself or not. Not mine, not the NFHS's. Do you remember when NHL players did not have to wear helmets? Do you recall when they grandfathered their mandatory wearing into the league? Now look at face-shields in the NHL. They can wear them if the want the extra protection, but they aren't required. When are we going to let people in this country make their own decisions?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Have you ever thought of the legal repercussions that you could be looking at if you ever had a disabling lower leg injury in a soccer game, and it happened to someone that you had let play without making them wear shinguards?
I have thought about it, JR. But I don't let stuff like that scare me. I also don't wear my seat-belt when I drive and no stupid fine is going to make me, ever!
I have told players and coaches both before games that a players shinguards are not up to the NFHS standards and when they whine about it, I just say, "It is your responsibility if you get hurt." They all say ok, and we play.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Are there any other rules that you don't like,so you just don't bother enforcing them?
Yes, three seconds in basketball, travelling when there is no defense present, the new hand-checking rule (placing a hand on is a foul), and obstruction in boys soccer.



Jurassic Referee Tue Oct 07, 2003 08:19pm

Wow!

Nevadaref Wed Oct 08, 2003 01:17am

At least I'm consistent. You have to grant me that. :)

dblref Wed Oct 08, 2003 06:11am

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
At least I'm consistent. You have to grant me that. :)
Having read through this thread, I'm not so sure you should be proud of being consistent.

Mark Dexter Wed Oct 08, 2003 06:23am

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Originally posted by Nevadaref

I have told players and coaches both before games that a players shinguards are not up to the NFHS standards and when they whine about it, I just say, "It is your responsibility if you get hurt." They all say ok, and we play.


IANAL, but I'm not sure how well that exchange would hold up in court . . . . . .

SamIAm Wed Oct 08, 2003 09:15am

Nevadaref,

Your philosophy is seriously flawed. All of the rules and/or laws you choose not to follow seem to be based on the idea that you just don't like them and no fine will make you follow them. When "Big Brother" steps where you don't like, the heck with him seems to be your mantra.
(By, the way, I think we all have that in us a little.)
But to shout it from the mountain top makes you look a quite silly. How can you justify blowing a whistle to some kid's argument that the kid just doesn't like the rule.
Now you are the same "Big Brother" that you spoke about from the mountain top.










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