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The NFHS rule states that the referee must verify with the head coach, prior to each contest, that his/her team member’s uniforms and equipment are legal and will be worn properly, and that all participants will exhibit proper sporting behavior throughout the contest.
A new IAABO mechanic has added that the referee must ask if there is an appropriate health care professional covering the game? Thoughts from the peanut gallery? |
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Identifying the HCP prior to a basketball game helps to protect referees from liability regarding player injury, and is consistent with other sports. |
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I'm aware of what IAABO/NFHS say about the pregame captains/coaches meeting, who is to be involved, what is to be asked and where it is to take place on the floor. But like I said, none of that happens in Massachusetts. |
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Believe me, my responses in this thread haven't been meant to indicate that officiating in Mass. is better than other places just because our captains' meetings are less corny. Quite to the contrary, the handshake thing is the absolute bane of our existence. If rigidifying our captains' meetings to NFHS/IAABO standards was all it would take to eliminate the state high school association's edict that we observe the postgame handshake, every official would take that trade in a heartbeat. All I'm saying in this IAABO-specific thread is that, in Mass., all of that captains/coaches meeting BS was already ignored, so I imagine this new wrinkle will be too. |
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Deep In the Heart Of ...
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When in Rome ... |
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I am joining the conversation late. I have not been posting much for the last year for non-basketball personal reasons, but BillyMac and others will vouch for me to the younger members of the Forum that I am one of the few "Ancient Ones" of the Forum.
I have been a member of IAABO for 24 years in a non-IAABO state (OhioHSAA). I am currently an Individual Member but was a member of the now defunct Board #55 in Cleveland, Ohio, and have served on a number of IAABO National Committees. Here is my take on the change in the IAABO Mechanics Book with regard to the pre-game meeting with the Captains (and Head Coaches) for the high school season (out-of-season games: I do not care which mechanics you use): 1) If you officiate in an IAABO State that uses the IAABO Mechanics then use the IAABO Mechanics. 2) If you officiate in an IAABO State uses the NFHS Mechanics or its own StateHSAA Mechanics, then use the NFHS or StateHSAA Mechanics. That said, as a historian of the rules of the game, I do not have the Head Coaches participate in the Captains' Pre-game Meeting. Why? Historically, Coaches are non-entities in the Rules. A Head Coach being allowed to huddle with his players during a Team TO has been allowed only since after World War II. Even now, the Captain is considered to be the leader of the team, not the HC, per the rules. At the high school FR level and above, the Team Captain will be my first option in taking care of business. And 99% of the time it has been my best first option at both the H.S. level and the college level. That is all for now. MTD, Sr. |
Official: Is an appropriate health care professional covering the game?
Coach: No. A hypothetical, but I am curious: Now what? |
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The coaches here know this. At least I've seen evidence that they're regularly made aware of this and, in fact, trained in concussion-awareness to a sufficient extent that we've been told to leave it in their hands should an analysis be prompted by us. Other states, indeed, may differ. |
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IAABO (of which I am a member of due to NY State) has some very stupid procedural things that the coaches plain ol opt out and we, as officials, are so inconsistent in following them I just don't get their point. Somewhere someone just overthinks things and feels that the coaches want to be a part of the captains meetings...heck the captains NOR we want to be a part of these meetings.
What's the point of asking coaches if their kids are "legally" equipped. Do we penalize the coach/team any if they answered truthfully instead of the obligatory "yeah sure"? It's like asking for speaking captains....In 15+ years I have never seen an official hunt down the "speaking" captain. I'm sure in 99.9% of the games they don't even remember who it is once the game starts. |
In almost all of my games I don't remember any of the captains, I certainly don't remember the "speaking captain" when the R on my crew asks for one, and when I'm the R I never ask for the speaking captain. Some guys have given me grief about it before and then get defensive when I tell them it's pointless and I don't care. Coincidentally, those are the same guys that want to recite the entire rule book in the captains and coaches meetings.
If I have an issue with a player, I'm either talking to that player myself, talking to the coach, or serving T. |
We've been doing this in New Hampshire for the last 3 years I've been here.
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