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[ODog]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Ever is a strong word. I've definitely participated in pregame meetings with the coaches where the Referee asked these things (while I was rolling my eyes).

That's why I included the disclaimer about "at least in my state." It does not happen, not even in the state tournament. All captains' meeting are just officials and players in the jump circle, and if it lasts more than 30 seconds, the referee must be "that guy." The coaches are not present ... ever.

I'm aware of what IAABO/NFHS say about the pregame captains/coaches meeting, who is to be involved, what is to be asked and where it is to take place on the floor.

But like I said, none of that happens in Massachusetts.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ODog

But like I said, none of that happens in Massachusetts.

Don't you guys observe the post game handshake lines after your jurisdiction ends?

[ODog]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Don't you guys observe the post game handshake lines after your jurisdiction ends?

Sadly, yes. Technically, our jurisdiction hasn't ended since we're still in the visual confines, but the MIAA strips us of penalty power relative to that game, so effectively it has. Bad behavior can be reported and perhaps have future ramifications, but please.

Believe me, my responses in this thread haven't been meant to indicate that officiating in Mass. is better than other places just because our captains' meetings are less corny. Quite to the contrary, the handshake thing is the absolute bane of our existence.

If rigidifying our captains' meetings to NFHS/IAABO standards was all it would take to eliminate the state high school association's edict that we observe the postgame handshake, every official would take that trade in a heartbeat.

All I'm saying in this IAABO-specific thread is that, in Mass., all of that captains/coaches meeting BS was already ignored, so I imagine this new wrinkle will be too.

[Mbilica]

Originally Posted by ODog

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If rigidifying our captains' meetings to NFHS/IAABO standards was all it would take to eliminate the state high school association's edict that we observe the postgame handshake, every official would take that trade in a heartbeat..

Ha ha! That is too true! The handshake rule is dumb. I umpire baseball in Massachusetts and we should be able to get off the field. But no! We have to stay and watch the teams shake hands.

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[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Mbilica

Ha ha! That is too true! The handshake rule is dumb. I umpire baseball in Massachusetts and we should be able to get off the field. But no! We have to stay and watch the teams shake hands.

What happens if you don't stay? Are you fined? Do you lose future games? Are you not eligible for postseason? Do you care? Basically, if you hate it so much, why don't you just leave?

[Mbilica]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

What happens if you don't stay? Are you fined? Do you lose future games? Are you not eligible for postseason? Do you care? Basically, if you hate it so much, why don't you just leave?

It is the rule. Why challenge it by leaving early? If something happens during the handshake line and we were supposed to be there, then you better believe the MIAA will have something to say to our association about it. I would suspect we would lose games, but I wouldn't want to find out. It is a pain, but it is the rule. The offseason is the time to change the rule. Obviously something happened after a game a few years ago which is why the rule is in place.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ODog

... my responses in this thread haven't been meant to indicate that officiating in Mass. is better than other places ...

In Texas, officials sound their whistles before entering the court to warn players to stop their pregame dunking.

When in Rome ...