Shot Clocks
 

Add Wisconsin to the list. Varsity games only, starting in 2019-20. 35 seconds, both boys and girls.

Also, we will be using the 28-foot box next year. When I moved here 15 years ago, there was a 6 foot box varsity only and it was considered an experiment. Times change.

Illinois is going to the 28 foot box for the upcoming season as well.

Is standing in the coaches box still a varsity only thing in Wisconsin?


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No, all levels. Has been for a few years now.

They should really go to a 30 second clock. Is way easier for officials to calculate changes in their head.

I do not think the officials would be the problem. There would be a lot more bad shots attempted with 30 second than 35 seconds.

Peace

Not really. There are already terrible shots taken in high school games with no shot clock. Let's be honest, any given set doesn't take more than 15 or 20 seconds to get an acceptable open look. When teams defend well for 20 seconds and the offense fails to get an open book, that's when crappy shots happen. But that happens every game. This just speeds up the whole process. I am sure coaches can adjust to having to buy your seconds to get a crappy shot.

Yes, but a shot clock brings worse shots sometimes. And a lot of teams IMO at the high school are not capable to take better shots. Also many high school teams can hold and pass the ball a lot. A shot clock is not going to make the scores go up if you cannot shoot.

I did a tournament where there was a 35 second shot clock but those teams played up tempo or played in a way already where they shot quicker anyway. But not all teams I see play that way. And the shot clock is going to just speed up that process.

Peace

We'll make it work.

They still have 2 years to change their minds, too. :D

It can work. Not suggesting that it cannot work overall. I just do not like it if I had a choice. If anything, get rid of quarters and extend the game by 2 minutes per half. I think that would make a better game not the shot clock.

Peace

We already play 18-minute halves.

For many schools, this is a solution in search of a problem. An expensive one, at that.

I may see if I can start working the shot clock once in a while, though. Gotta find the next career once I get sick of officiating. :D

So much for using National Federation Rules strictly. Not sure where that idea of states doing their own thing came from? :D

Peace

With the expanded coaching box..what do you think the impact will be? Will coaches be more involved and chatting with officials even more? Will officials need to address coaches even more?

I am sure plenty of coaches will use it as an opportunity to go down to the end line to chat with or b*tch at the L. If (s)he does the latter, it's a great opportunity to put an official warning in the book.

Actually it will have very little to no impact. College coaches do not talk more to officials because of where they are located. Actually if the coach is closer I do not have to yell. And most of all we will not have to be so worried about where a coach is located in front of their bench. Now the coach can go get water at the end of the bench. The length of the coaching box is not going to make coaches smarter when they discuss things from officials. It just will eliminate much of what we worry about. And now with the coach's warning, we have another tool to stop the madness.

Peace

I have more issues with the coaches wanting to stand at the division line in front of the scorer's table.

I can only hope there is a correlation. I'm skeptical, but hopeful.

So much for that. Board voted just a few hours ago to rescind the decision.

I'm fine with that, too.


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What is this "coaches box" of which you speak??? :confused:

Maybe Massachusetts, where we were early adopters of the shot clock (way back in the early-to-mid 90s) and used halves for years before switching back to quarters 3 years ago.

Does Wisconsin give up an NFHS vote for doing this? I believe the shot-clock states already give up their votes.

Yes.


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I'm well aware of what's going on in my own state and the entire process around the adoption and the recent recision.

Playing 18-minute halves has cost us our vote, if I understand the NFHS correctly.


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Shot Clocks
 

A state doesn’t have a single vote, from my understanding. But, look at that little regional map at the beginning of your rule book. If a state chooses to non-conform in a particular sport without NFHS approval, it forfeits its eligibility to represent the region with a rules committee member. In other words, when the current member’s term expires, NFHS will not solicit a nominee from a non-conforming state.

All in all, non-conforming carries very little penalty. This is probably why so many states do it in some form or another. They just don’t care if they don’t have a seat on the rules committee two years out of every fourteen.

I wonder what would happen if all the states in a given region were non-conformers? I suppose maybe you could just realign the regions...


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I think basketball operates differently than other sports, where each state has representation.


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