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Old Sat Mar 18, 2017, 04:18pm
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I am even more surprised by this incorrect interpretation because NCAA-M emphasized team control fouls in situations exactly like this during multiple in-season training videos this season.
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Old Sat Mar 18, 2017, 04:32pm
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I emphasized it during the NCAA tourney last year on this forum.
You and JD Collins were on the same page because that is the exact same thing he referenced in the trainings.

I have plenty of deficiencies, but for some reason, this is one type of play I am pretty good at recognizing but I have a LOT of partners who struggle with it. A number of times I have come in as one of the non-calling officials and asked about team control (or told them if I happened to see the whole play), and they frequently seem like they hadn't even considered that we shouldn't be going to shoot free throws on the other end.
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Well, about 4:50 to go in the NW/Gonzaga game and there is a Zag player that blocks a shot by going through the hoop. Collins becomes unglued and runs on the court to receive immediate T. Officials totally missed the BI but Collins had no right to act that way, especially after his behavior earlier. Got too much of his dad in him, lol.
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Old Sun Mar 19, 2017, 10:55am
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Well, about 4:50 to go in the NW/Gonzaga game and there is a Zag player that blocks a shot by going through the hoop. Collins becomes unglued and runs on the court to receive immediate T. Officials totally missed the BI but Collins had no right to act that way, especially after his behavior earlier. Got too much of his dad in him, lol.
Coverage on the missed BI play....Is the The Trail's call who was table side or the Center who was opposite table? Would this miss likely end this crew's run?
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Old Sun Mar 19, 2017, 01:06pm
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JRut, didn't want to start a new thread without your blessing, so here's a video request from March 19:
Michigan-Louisville, second half, 5:30 left. Louisville player blows a dunk but remains hanging on the rim in order to help corral the rebound.

Officials ruled BI, but nothing more. In HS, you could argue this was 10-4-4a (placing a hand on the ring to gain an advantage). Is the rule different in NCAAM, or were the officials likely going with the least disruptive call in a tight game?
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Old Mon Mar 20, 2017, 03:12pm
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Coverage on the missed BI play....Is the The Trail's call who was table side or the Center who was opposite table? Would this miss likely end this crew's run?
To me, a hand through the basket is best seen by the Lead.
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Old Mon Mar 20, 2017, 03:26pm
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To me, a hand through the basket is best seen by the Lead.
I agree and he is probably not looking there. And I bet the other officials had some doubt as to where his hand was. Because he could have hand his hand in the net and not had a BI. But it was a miss and I think it was not tragic either. It probably surprised them as you do not see that every day for sure.

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Old Sat Mar 18, 2017, 06:31pm
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You could clip the last 10 minutes of the Gonzaga/Northwestern game. Two observations. Missed a hand through the goal for a blocked shot, and it took way to long to deal with Collins.
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Old Sat Mar 18, 2017, 07:37pm
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You could clip the last 10 minutes of the Gonzaga/Northwestern game. Two observations. Missed a hand through the goal for a blocked shot, and it took way to long to deal with Collins.
NCAA statement on the call and subsequent T.

https://twitter.com/lukewinn/status/...rc=twsrc%5Etfw
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Old Sat Mar 18, 2017, 09:59pm
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NCAA statement on the call and subsequent T.

https://twitter.com/lukewinn/status/...rc=twsrc%5Etfw
I'm saying Collins acted like an idiot all game, and should have been dealt with way earlier before that play.
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Old Sat Mar 18, 2017, 10:51pm
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I'm saying Collins acted like an idiot all game, and should have been dealt with way earlier before that play.
Collins acted like an idiot in all the games I saw this year.
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