Missed Foul- (Video Request)

[nolanjj68]

I do not know how to embed the video but I have a foul on 3W as 2R is driving to the basket. Could also go PC on 2R as she extended her hand into 3W before she was fouled but I'm probably passing on that. 2R should have been shooting 2 IMO.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by nolanjj68

I do not know how to embed the video but I have a foul on 3W as 2R is driving to the basket. Could also go PC on 2R as she extended her hand into 3W before she was fouled but I'm probably passing on that. 2R should have been shooting 2 IMO.

I agree and that was the consensus- shooting foul on 3W- from officials watching the game.

A couple of things I'd like to discuss once the video is posted and more folks provide input.

[Indianaref]

Shooting foul on white 3.

[VaTerp]

A couple of things to consider.

Why do we think the L misses this play? They got a bit straightlined after sprinting to the endline and from their vantage point could see that white was not vertical at first but did not see the contact on the arm.

Are there lessons to be learned here about getting the best look possible as L in transition.

And what about the clock? The officials ended up putting 0.3 on the clock- which became a huge deal. Its impossible to say from this video but I think there definitely should have been more time put on.

[JRutledge]

You think the play in transition was a miss? I think that was a good play, but I am assuming that is the part you want on the site correct?

I do not know if there is a way to embed twitter videos.

Here's the game-winning basket by Monacan's @iball_crzy to win the 4A state title! pic.twitter.com/RAscBOooSm

— Jamaar Hawkins (@Jay_Hawkins2) March 11, 2017

Peace

[VaTerp]

Thanks, JRut. Yes, that is what I wanted posted.

I do think its a miss as White 3 comes across Red's arm, which can be seen clearly at the 20 second mark of the video.

A large group of officials was sitting opposite of the camera angle behind and to the right of red's bench. The consensus was that #3 came across her arm- clearly to most officials with the other view- and should have been called a foul.

Also, there were 42 fouls and 54 FTs shot in this game. So there had been whistles on similar contact all game.

Would it also be possible to embed the video below, which shows the sequence after this when 0.3 was put back on the clock and the potential game winning shot was waived off.

Jamestown boys and King’s Fork girls lose in state title game | WAVY-TV

Thanks!

[RefRich]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Thanks, JRut. Yes, that is what I wanted posted.

I do think its a miss as White 3 comes across Red's arm, which can be seen clearly at the 20 second mark of the video.

A large group of officials was sitting opposite of the camera angle behind and to the right of red's bench. The consensus was that #3 came across her arm- clearly to most officials with the other view- and should have been called a foul.

Also, there were 42 fouls and 54 FTs shot in this game. So there had been whistles on similar contact all game.

Would it also be possible to embed the video below, which shows the sequence after this when 0.3 was put back on the clock and the potential game winning shot was waived off.

Jamestown boys and King’s Fork girls lose in state title game | WAVY-TV

Thanks!

With .3 on the clock she cannot catch the ball and only a tip would be allowed so no basket is correct.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You think the play in transition was a miss? I think that was a good play, but I am assuming that is the part you want on the site correct?

I do not know if there is a way to embed twitter videos.

Peace

I thought she got in there pretty good and then got arm after...when red tried to force the ball through white's defense towards the hoop. I'm not sure I have a foul in real time on this, either.

L got a late jump down the floor but has a good look on the play.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by Rich

I thought she got in there pretty good and then got arm after...when red tried to force the ball through white's defense towards the hoop. I'm not sure I have a foul in real time on this, either.

L got a late jump down the floor but has a good look on the play.

The L first ran into the media table and lost his balance off camera before getting in pretty good position IMO. Aw well, full disclosure- I am the L here.

I talked to many officials, observers, and evaluators after this game. To a man, they all thought it was a foul.

In real time, it was difficult to see. I'm trying to learn how I could have gotten a more open look.