Pac-12 Tournament (Video Request and video)
 

Play #1:
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Play #2:
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Peace

Play #3: This was earlier than the two other videos
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Peace

2nd video - appears 0 white asks for timeout before 5 second violation.

The 5 second violation seems a little sketchy to me. It appears the official only does 4 counts, and even blows his whistle after the ball is released.

If you have the violation, then go with the violation regardless of the release of the ball. But the count did seem rather quick.

Peace

ESPN: With 15:59 remaining in 2nd half, AZ player initially called for a flagrant 1 foul. After review, downgraded to common foul. F1 in my mind.

About 5.5 seconds based on my count.

ESPN: With 9:47 to play, Trier(AZ) makes a full-court layup and teammate grabs rim/net as ball still in net. Nothing called but looked like obvious BI.

ESPN: With 3:22 (think) to go, drive down left middle and T ref calls a block, via restricted area, on secondary defender. Was the secondary defender in the air or grounded?

Play 1. OOB. It appeared that the UCLA player knocked the ball away from the Arizona player but that it may have rolled off of the UA player's fingers last. Not conclusive on the video, so they must stay with what they had.

Play 2. Great job on the timeout. Great awareness by the L. I couldn't tell which whistle was sounded first. The L's reaction, like many to timeout requests, was almost certainly delayed and thus the recognition of the timeout would have been first.

Play 3. Another good call. Possession certainly didn't change.

Are you saying the L should have called that instead of the timeout? :p;)

No, but his count WASN'T fast.....that's what I was saying.

I know....just messing with ya.

What game?

Peace

Looking for another play, this is what I found.

Play #4:

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Play #5:

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Peace

4. close play but I'd have to go with a block
5. Travel

Play 4- I don't think the defense did anything wrong, charge.
Play 5- Travel, but admittedly, I might miss this one live, that was a pretty quick move.

That move was sloppy enough that I would have called the travel and have.

Sorry, it would have been the Arizona game late Saturday night pacific time on ESPN.

Broken record time:

Play 5, by rule, is a travel. 99% of spin moves to the basket are travels.

That said, "the game of basketball", in practice, has decided that that is a legal move. And I'm not going to be the only official calling it, so I'm passing just like they did.

In regards to the travel. As advised by many here, if you need it in super slow mo to pick it up we probably aren't calling it.

I have always been an advocate of getting all of the travels even if it meant getting a couple of close ones wrong. I am aware that is puts me in the minority here in the general officiating universe so I do my best to act as Rome would have me act.

Problem with these sorts of plays is when the dribble ends? If I'm officiating the defense and there is traffic and he starts to pull the ball for a psin dribble then curls his arms/scoops the ball. That can be a hard get . . . back to my intial point. If i'm not sure without replay, most people I work with or for don't want you calling it.

Play 4....easy charge. Ignore the announcers. It was way outside the RA and he had LGP for miles. His lateral movement was irrelevant since the shooter was still on the floor.

Play 5. Travel. Left is the pivot on the spin. Steps the the right, then to the left again.

I spent last March rewinding/reviewing every spin move I saw. None were, technically, legal. It's incredibly difficult/awkward to get that first foot down before ending your dribble. It just doesn't happen that way.

That said, oif neither coach, none of the players, none of the fans and nearly none of my fellow officials think that play is or should be illegal I'm not going to die on that hill.

Finally found these plays.
 

Play #6:
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Play #7:
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Peace

Awesome, thank you. Interested to hear what people think.

Play #7:

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Peace

Play 6: Technically BI since the ball was in the basket but that and similar plays are often passed on. The ball was in and was not coming out. Any slight contact with the rim at that point was not going to have any effect on the shot.

Play 7 #1. The defender did just just as contact was beginning but I think contact occurred before he left the floor. He didn't really jump to play the ball but did so, halfheartedly, as an afterthought to avoid an RA block. This exposes the flaw in the RA rules with defenders jumping. It adds one more layer of complexity. Did he jump in time and did he really jump?

Play 7 #2. Good downgrade. At most, that was a minor nudge. A foul for sure but not even close to a flagrant 1 IMO.

Play #8:

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Peace

Great call. LGP gained a long time before contact. Moved legally to maintain it. I wish we'd be more consistent with that.

I concur. Sadly, the announcers are totally wrong and that spreads further misinformation to the viewing public.

Bill Walton is BAD
 

To call Bill Walton an announcer is an insult to all announcers... He is terrible. Just talks to hear his own voice and thinks he is funny when he is insulting. I can't watch a game that he is on.

PS: Great call. I love it....

I have no idea why they downgraded it. That's an easy flagrant-1 once you go to the monitor.

I think he was just trying to kind of bump him like a defender would do normally and did not see his arm movement any more than just that. I do not think he was throwing a blow at all. But I see why it was called initially for sure. I have mixed feelings on the downgrade, but I understand.

Peace

Jay Bilas is another so called "announcer" who I tend to ignore, but who spreads rules misinterpretations as well.

I agree. The contact was really nothing more than a basic handcheck or push.

I did a similar video analysis.breakdown several years ago now involving the take off with open step vs cross over step pivot foot. Reality was that at any level 90%+ of all the open steps did not have the ball leaving contact with the hand before the back foot came off the ground. At the time I made an argument with our association that we were missing that 90%+ of those calls.

Similar response and result from our membership. If they needed video to see it and coaches/fans etc were fine they weren't going to make an issue of it. They would rather get the obvious ones only.

We actually had a couple of collegiate leagues that called it that way for a couple of years around here (which is where I got the inspiration). THey at one point had a NCAA Div 1 transfer who was called for 12 travels in her first game. They have since since backed off on it.

The thing is you don't need a video to see it one you know what you're looking at. If it takes video to train people to see it, that should be OK. Anyone that wants to get better looks a video of plays to analyze them and get better at real time recognition. Why should traveling be any different?

I agree 100%. If you look at 50 similar plays and they're ALL travels "in slow motion", then it shouldn't really require slow motion to identify anymore. I make this point every time someone says this in an area meeting.

But again, it falls on deaf ears and I'm not going to the only one calling them.

Agreed. But as you say unless everyone wants to call it that way then you aren't going to be the guy stuck doing jv girls games every Friday night because no one wants to work with/assign games to the guy who calls 40 travels when everyone else is calling 2.

There is also some concern always expressed about if it is a travel 9 out of 10 times, they would rather no call it 10 times then call it wrong once.

I see it the the other way that if I'm no calling it I am getting 9 wrong. I would rather get 1 wrong than 9 wrong. But my wife would tell me that just because I see it that way doesn't make it right (in fact her stance is that it generally means I'm wrong - who knew there was a correct way to put milk containers back in the fridge)

Only in Canada where your milk comes in funny bags rather than a carton...

I love my country but hate the funny bags . . .