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JRutledge Sat Mar 11, 2017 04:40pm

American East Championship Plays (Video)
 
No particular order.

Play #1:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/JD_Hg51wFv0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Play #2:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/SLGm4I38_IE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Play #3:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/TwnjZjBckbg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Play#4:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/EzXLF_pkUOU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Peace

Camron Rust Sun Mar 12, 2017 02:32am

Play 1. Yes. Illegal dribble. The first one wan't an elegant dribble but it was one.

Play 2. Block...continued to drift to the side after shooter was off the floor and enough that it put him in the path of the shooter that may have either missed or just barely made contact.

Play 3. Block...While he had 2 feet down, in the path, and was facing, he was a LONG way from being vertical at the time of initial contact. His upper body, not to mention his arms, was leaning a couple of feet forward of the position of his feet.

Play 4. He had LGP, legally moved to maintain it, and was run over...charge.

crosscountry55 Sun Mar 12, 2017 07:13am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 1002137)
Play 1. Yes. Illegal dribble. The first one wan't an elegant dribble but it was one.



Play 2. Block...continued to drift to the side after shooter was off the floor and enough that it put him in the path of the shooter that may have either missed or just barely made contact.



Play 3. Block...While he had 2 feet down, in the path, and was facing, he was a LONG way from being vertical at the time of initial contact. His upper body, not to mention his arms, was leaning a couple of feet forward of the position of his feet.



Play 4. He had LGP, legally moved to maintain it, and was run over...charge.



Agree on all 4. In 2, tough break for the L as he didn't get over in time to have a credible opinion on the secondary defender. Not blaming him; it just means there was a lot for C to officiate there without the best of angles. Tough play. In 4, looked like maybe a flop in real speed, but the defender wasn't planted when he got charged into hence the dramatic fall.


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frezer11 Sun Mar 12, 2017 06:54pm

Probably block on play 3, but I'm not up in arms over a charge call. However, I think that waiting (and watching) until the ball went through the hoop before making the signal is not a good thing, it often looks as though you are factoring it into your decision.

Raymond Mon Mar 13, 2017 09:15am

Not a great game for this crew

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jpgc99 Mon Mar 13, 2017 09:29am

Quote:

Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 1002186)
Probably block on play 3, but I'm not up in arms over a charge call. However, I think that waiting (and watching) until the ball went through the hoop before making the signal is not a good thing, it often looks as though you are factoring it into your decision.

He called a block.

I was also confused by the mechanics on the play, but what appears to be a PC punch is actually him counting the basket.

This is why I like to give the block signal first, then count the basket after giving the block signal.

Rich Mon Mar 13, 2017 09:54am

#4 -- there's NO WAY that amount of contact caused that reaction. I don't use the word flop, but if it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck...

I think a no call is the proper call here. I'm guessing I will be in the minority in this thread.

Rich Mon Mar 13, 2017 09:55am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpgc99 (Post 1002243)
He called a block.

I was also confused by the mechanics on the play, but what appears to be a PC punch is actually him counting the basket.

This is why I like to give the block signal first, then count the basket after giving the block signal.

I had this happen a few years ago and the coach was livid -- he thought I called a charge and was counting the basket.

Since then, I count with two fingers and not a closed fist. There's no doubt what I'm calling, no matter the order of my signals.

Indianaref Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 1002250)
#4 -- there's NO WAY that amount of contact caused that reaction. I don't use the word flop, but if it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck...

I think a no call is the proper call here. I'm guessing I will be in the minority in this thread.

I'm with you on this and I hope we are not in the minority.

Camron Rust Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 1002250)
#4 -- there's NO WAY that amount of contact caused that reaction. I don't use the word flop, but if it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck...

I think a no call is the proper call here. I'm guessing I will be in the minority in this thread.

I think that reaction was a result not of the contact but a combination of the contact and the defender's own movement. He was going that way anyway and the contact added to it.


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