3 or 2 point shot?

Nevadaref

Can one of our video gurus clip and post the play at 1:33:49 of this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCr2rfErLBM&feature=youtu.be

MechanicGuy

Yeah, it's pretty obviously a 2 pt shot.

Shit happens on courts that look like that though. Lines all over the damn place.

Nevadaref

Final score was 47-46 in favor of white.

MechanicGuy

Nevadaref wrote
Final score was 47-46 in favor of white.

Yeah, I jumped to the end hoping that wasn't the case. But to say that shot alone determined anything is foolish.

Raymond

MechanicGuy wrote
Yeah, it's pretty obviously a 2 pt shot.

Shit happens on courts that look like that though. Lines all over the damn place.

That's just a missed play. There are not any lines that are in confusion with the 3-point line

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Rich

A missed call. Is there anything educational about this or should we just get out the figuative wet noodles?

deecee

Nevadaref

Rich wrote
A missed call. Is there anything educational about this or should we just get out the figuative wet noodles?

I'm curious about the actions of the C. Can't see the Trail, but wonder if C is mirroring him. He clearly didn't watch the shot.

Rich

OK, something for me to go back and look at. Admittedly, I watched on my phone which isn't always ideal.

JRutledge

Am I looking at the right play? I see a three point shot that puts the team in white ahead. Am I looking at the right play?

Peace

Nevadaref

Yes, now look at the shooter's feet.
What I'm interested in from this play is the crew communication.
During the next possession by blue the game is stopped and the new T consults with the C about the try instead of the official who was Trail. I found that strange.
How could the crew have done better to get this play right?

BillyMac

JRutledge wrote
Am I looking at the right play? I see a three point shot that puts the team in white ahead.

Nevadaref wrote
Yes, now look at the shooter's feet.

Am I looking at the same video as everybody else at 1:33:49? Between the camera angle, the lights reflecting off the floor, and players getting in the way, I can't clearly see the three point line, nor the player's feet.

JRutledge

This must be the play.

I did not see this play based on the original time stamp given. I was looking at a different time of the game.

Peace

BigCat

JRutledge wrote
This must be the play.

I did not see this play based on the original time stamp given. I was looking at a different time of the game.

Peace

Yes, this has to be it. Clearly a two that is signaled a 3. Some good points in it by the official/assignor/whomever talking about it.

BillyMac

BigCat wrote
Some good points ...

An additional point for the good of the cause. Since the official signals a three, and the scorer adds three to the scorebook, this can be a correctable error (not a bookkeeping error) situation and doesn't have to corrected immediately. It can be corrected within the parameters of the correctable error rule (erroneously counting or canceling a score, if error is made while the clock is running and the ball dead, it must be recognized by an official before the second live ball, if an error is corrected, play shall be resumed from the point of interruption to rectify the error).

BigCat

BillyMac wrote
An additional point for the good of the cause. Since the official signals a three, and the scorer adds three to the scorebook, this can be a correctable error (not a bookkeeping error) situation and doesn't have to corrected immediately. It can be corrected within the parameters of the correctable error rule (erroneously counting or canceling a score, if error is made while the clock is running and the ball dead, it must be recognized by an official before the second live ball, if an error is corrected, play shall be resumed from the point of interruption to rectify the error).

It IS a correctable error...made while clock running. It MUST be corrected before second live ball.

ODog

No later than during the first dead ball after the clock has properly started. Minor but important distinction.

You could have a second live ball, and a third, and a fourth, and so on, and still be within the CE window.

Nevadaref

Who is the person giving the breakdown of the video?

Rich

Not sure, but it's good. He's right about officials giving up open looks. What I've also noticed watching HS film this year is officials not using their feet to get open looks. The home base starting spot ends up being where they work, especially outside.

BigCat

ODog wrote
No later than during the first dead ball after the clock has properly started. Minor but important distinction.

You could have a second live ball, and a third, and a fourth, and so on, and still be within the CE window.

This error was made while the clock was running. It MUST be corrected before second live ball.