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JRutledge Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:07pm

Big 12 Tournament plays (Video and Requests)
 
Play #1:

I'm surprised no one asked about this play. I saw this in a hotel this afternoon.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/SpEQVBBp_fc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Peace

Raymond Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:38pm

W11 received nothing but actually committed two dead ball contact technicals. In the initial action after the held ball he makes contact with his elbow to the defender's face. Then he shoved defender.

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crosscountry55 Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:46pm

Big 12 Tournament plays (Video and Requests)
 
The monitor can't tell you what someone may have said, so in the end I think there are just two CDBTs in succession.

In NFHS this would be a false double foul, administer order of occurrence. I thought for FDFs involving CDBTs or F2s this was also the case in NCAA…but if they are the exact same type, does that make it POI? Or were these deemed a DTF (which I would disagree with)?

Why did Gerry Pollard turn around? If it was just to look at the arrow, he committed a cardinal sin and paid for it. Never take your eyes off the players to turn and look at the arrow. Let a partner who is opposite the table and already facing the arrow do that.




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JRutledge Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by crosscountry55 (Post 1002017)
The monitor can't tell you what someone may have said, so in the end I think there are just two CDBTs in succession.

I think you can make a case that #24 for OSU was taunting. Now I get the reluctance to call this. You cannot hear what is being said, but I do not think you need to know what was said to call something here. But there might be more guidelines for taunting that you cannot hear replay. So if that is the case I can understand that reluctance for that action.

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ODog Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1002019)
I think you can make a case that #24 for OSU was taunting. ... You cannot hear what is being said, but I do not think you need to know what was said to call something here.

This ^^

It was a clear taunt (with the benefit of replay, of course). And I agree that what is said in any taunting scenario is irrelevant.

deecee Fri Mar 10, 2017 07:29am

2 Orange player T's and one on white.

Raymond Fri Mar 10, 2017 08:50am

So everyone is ignoring W11's elbow to the face and follow-up shove?

W4 is the one who received the T for White while W11 got off scot-free.


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