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Old Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:41pm
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Just so everybody is clear White #2 is the wing that is opposite the table. I can't see the numbers of the player who made the errant pass or the one who tried to "save" that pass (the wing on the table side).

The whistle is blown shortly after the table side player touches the ball. It should not have been. #2 eventually picks up the ball in the back court in the center circle.
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Old Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:46pm
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Sorry. Thought bucky was referring to the player that touched it while both had frontcourt status.
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Old Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:49pm
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Had that white player tipped the ball in his save attempt, such that the ball bounced almost right down the midcourt line, and was recovered by A2 reaching over the time line such that he stayed entirely in the front court, is there a violation there? Same question, but if the ball took 2-3 bounces in the back court before landing in the FC, and was then recovered?
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The ball either hits the division line or doesn't in your first scenario, which are you intending?

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Sorry, I mean it is rolling in the backcourt. No player in team A touches the ball while that player has BC status in my scenario.
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Old Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:49pm
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The whistle is blown shortly after the table side player touches the ball. It should not have been. #2 eventually picks up the ball in the back court in the center circle.
Right, so No. 2 is just picking up a dead ball. That doesn't suddenly make an incorrect backcourt call correct.
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Old Sun Feb 26, 2017, 05:24pm
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I don't disagree. Just trying to clarify Bucky's comments.
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Old Sun Feb 26, 2017, 05:34pm
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Right, so No. 2 is just picking up a dead ball. That doesn't suddenly make an incorrect backcourt call correct.
Technically, it should have been an IW, with ball back to white. That's picking nits on what was going to be an obvious violation.
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Old Sun Feb 26, 2017, 05:39pm
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1. Travel, someone doesn't know the rule.
2. Holding foul on W35.
3. Not a BC violation, yet. Need one more touch.
1. I will assume a Big Ten ref knows the rule, but just missed the call.
2 and 3, agreed.
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Old Sun Feb 26, 2017, 08:00pm
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1. I will assume a Big Ten ref knows the rule, but just missed the call.
2 and 3, agreed.
On 1....I'm not so sure. He probably knows the basics of the travel rule, but it's hard to say he just "missed" this one. It's not really possible to do that move and not travel lol.
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Old Mon Feb 27, 2017, 11:30am
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On 1....I'm not so sure. He probably knows the basics of the travel rule, but it's hard to say he just "missed" this one. It's not really possible to do that move and not travel lol.
If he took his eyes off the shooter at just the wrong moment to see the defender, he may not have seen it well enough to make a call. This is the most basic of travel rules, so the idea that he doesn't know the rule is more difficult for me to believe than the idea that he just looked away at the wrong moment.
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