A lot going on during this play. (Video)

[crosscountry55]

No play on the ball. Two forearms extending in the upper shoulders/head area.

This is not a common foul. Only way it is if, because it's in the 2-p dead corner, neither of the officials got a credible look at exactly what the gold player did.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

No play on the ball. Two forearms extending in the upper shoulders/head area.

This is not a common foul. Only way it is if, because it's in the 2-p dead corner, neither of the officials got a credible look at exactly what the gold player did.

IMO, he went through the player to try to get to the ball. Sometimes they do stupid things, but that doesn't mean I'm upgrading this.

[Amesman]

What's really a shame is L, rightly or wrongly, looks like he was starting to head back the other way and seemed to have eyes on the ball/at the point of contact. Could have nipped it in the bud with a strong whistle.

[udbrky]

I like a flagrant with an EJ for that shove.

Then a possible double T for the re- and re-re-shove on the 2 in the corner

and EJ's for those leaving the bench.

This is such a great example of getting the first call right and preventive officiating imo. You bang that first foul and none of this other **** happens.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by udbrky

I like a flagrant with an EJ for that shove.

A disqualification for a shove? That's a hard sell IMO.

[RefRich]

Originally Posted by deecee

A disqualification for a shove? That's a hard sell IMO.

I agree, as I said earlier, I have an intentional but not a disqualification. I don't see how he's just going for the ball. If he's diving over the player or his arms are in a different position, maybe, but he went at the kid with a cross body block.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by deecee

A disqualification for a shove? That's a hard sell IMO.

I might be persuaded by the argument that it wasn't just a shove, it was a shove to the neck area.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by OKREF

I might be persuaded by the argument that it wasn't just a shove, it was a shove to the neck area.

The action after the tackle pretty well proves this is not a common foul

[udbrky]

Originally Posted by OKREF

I might be persuaded by the argument that it wasn't just a shove, it was a shove to the neck area.

This was my thinking, in that this was a pretty malicious movement.

Prepping to get back to basketball next fall, so please help correct any errant thinking I have.