Hanging Backboard Padding

spret93

In the case that the backboard padding on the side/lower corner of backboard is hanging slightly off of the glass, is this padding in bounds or out of bounds? (I know the proper answer is the padding should be fixed, but I can find a rule or case play addressing if it isn't). Thanks.

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Adam

Is it fixed to the bottom, or to the back?

spret93

Adam wrote
Is it fixed to the bottom, or to the back?

It's the L-piece that wraps from the side to the bottom.

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Adam

Then it's not attached to the back. I'd call it legal.

BillyMac

The front, top, sides, and bottom of the backboard are all in play. The ball cannot legally pass over a rectangular backboard from either direction. The back of a backboard is out of bounds, as well as the supporting structures.

spret93

BillyMac wrote
The front, top, sides, and bottom of the backboard are all in play. The ball cannot legally pass over a rectangular backboard from either direction. The back of a backboard is out of bounds, as well as the supporting structures.

I also read that. Is padding hanging off the glass still part of the side of the backboard? Just asking for some interpretation help here.

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BillyMac

spret93 wrote
I also read that. Is padding hanging off the glass still part of the side of the backboard? Just asking for some interpretation help here.

In my opinion, yes.

LRZ

In my opinion, no: the padding is no longer mounted on the bottom and sides of the backboard, under Rule 1-9-1.

But, absent some authoritative ruling, case or interpretation, make sure you clarify with both coaches beforehand how you will call it.

BillyMac

LRZ wrote
In my opinion, no: the padding is no longer mounted on the bottom and sides of the backboard ...

So if a thrown ball, a pass, a shot, a blocked shot, deflection, etc., hits the loose padding on the bottom, side, or top, of the backboard, the ball is out of bounds?

Citation please.

Or will one suspend the game until the padding is replaced, or fixed, maybe by next Thursday?

LRZ

Billy, you know there is nothing specifically addressing this issue in the rule book or casebook. Give a citation for ruling it in-bounds.

To me, "hanging from" is not "mounted on." How would you read 1-9-1? Is this so crystal clear to you?

BillyMac

LRZ wrote
Billy, you know there is nothing specifically addressing this issue in the rule book or casebook. Give a citation for ruling it in-bounds.
To me, "hanging from" is not "mounted on." How would you read 1-9-1? Is this so crystal clear to you?

Again, are you going to rule it out of bounds, or suspend the game until it gets fixed, or replaced.

For me, if it's not out of bounds, it's inbounds.

Nevadaref

LRZ wrote
Billy, you know there is nothing specifically addressing this issue in the rule book or casebook. Give a citation for ruling it in-bounds.

To me, "hanging from" is not "mounted on." How would you read 1-9-1? Is this so crystal clear to you?

2-4-1
If the equipment passes the R's pregame inspection, then it is legal.

LRZ

If the R rules it in-bounds, I'm ok with that. If I'm the R, it's out of bounds. Rule 2-3. But if a partner has a serious objection, I'm not going to insist. I've had games where coaches and partners have agreed that wires high above the baskets are in-bounds.

"Suspend the game"? Why set up a straw man?

Nevadaref

I can't believe that this is a discussion. The process is very clear. The R does a pregame inspection. Everything which passes is legal. What doesn't needs to get fixed before starting the game. If something breaks during play, halt the game and fix it.

Ruling something to be OOB which isn't is not the proper solution.

crosscountry55

If the padding is on the side, and the ball hits the padding that's on the side……

LRZ, go ahead and call that OOB a few times, then send us video of the inevitably tense explanations you'll be making to coaches. I'll buy popcorn.

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BillyMac

LRZ wrote
I've had games where coaches and partners have agreed that wires high above the baskets are in-bounds.

Coaches? Believable.

Partner? No way, the rules clearly don't support this, unless it's some type of weird, league recognized, "ground rule" in a odd gymnasium.