Hard foul, intentional, flagrant ? (HS)

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

It's close. Excessive contact? Maybe? It's close.

4-19-3: An intentional foul is a personal or technical foul that may or may
not be premeditated and is not based solely on the severity of the act. Intentional
fouls include, but are not limited to:
d. Excessive contact with an opponent while playing the ball.

NFHS Case 4.19.3 Sit B: A1 drives to the basket with B1 in pursuit. As A1 begins the act of shooting, B1 gets a hand on the ball from behind and the subsequent contact takes A1 forcefully to the floor and out of bounds."
"RULING: An intentional foul shall be charged when the contact is judged to be excessive, even though the opponent is playing the ball. (4-11)

From this video it's no where near close Billy. At most he's trying to block a shot and catches wrist. Offense is in the air which is why he lands hard. Now if he hits wrist or all ball and follows through with body driving offense to floor you have something here.

If he pushes his legs sideways you have something here. Just not enough on this video.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

... follows through with body driving offense to floor you have something here. If he pushes his legs sideways you have something here.

I watched the video a second time. This is a really nasty looking foul until you break it down. The first time through the video, I didn't realize that the contact was mostly up top, on the wrist, with little or no body contact. So I can go along with just two shots.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I watched the video a second time. This is a really nasty looking foul until you break it down. The first time through the video, I didn't realize that the contact was mostly up top, on the wrist, with little or no body contact. So I can go along with just two shots.

I think this may explain how the refs of the day got to intentional -- the hard landing made the contact look worse than it was. And they didn't see the play with a header that asks if it is hard foul, intentional, or flagrant. With that forewarning and looking for it, I thought it was pretty easy to say this was "just" a foul.