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JRutledge Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:04pm

Is this a BC violation?
 
Do you have a violation?

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Peace

Mregor Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 998256)
Do you have a violation?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Eeve5sqgVjg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Peace

Contacts out for the night already but I say yes.

Nevadaref Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:20pm

Excellent call.
The Texas player caught the ball with both hands while fully in his frontcourt. He then proceeded to cross the division line and start a dribble in his backcourt.

BigCat Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:29pm

I don't think red really gained control so ball remained in white team control. White was last to touch in FC and then first in BC. Nevadas reasoning works also.

Welpe Tue Jan 24, 2017 01:51am

Watching live I thought it was BC and seeing the replay I still do.

AremRed Tue Jan 24, 2017 02:14am

Well as we all know, Sirmons is great at any play involving the midcourt line.....not so much those involving the endline. :D

bob jenkins Tue Jan 24, 2017 08:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 998256)
Do you have a violation?

I can't tell -- the video is too small. ;)

I had a similar call in a HS game about a week ago -- it made me think that maybe there should be some sort of "momentum exception" in the rules -- similar in concept to the football rule that makes it a touchback and not a safety.

frezer11 Tue Jan 24, 2017 09:02am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCat (Post 998260)
I don't think red really gained control so ball remained in white team control. White was last to touch in FC and then first in BC. Nevadas reasoning works also.

Agree with this. Any touch by white in FC makes them last to touch w/ team control, and obviously they are the 1st to touch in BC- Violation.

so cal lurker Tue Jan 24, 2017 09:55am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 998282)
I can't tell -- the video is too small. ;)

I had a similar call in a HS game about a week ago -- it made me think that maybe there should be some sort of "momentum exception" in the rules -- similar in concept to the football rule that makes it a touchback and not a safety.


Hmm. Seems that would get awfully tough to call. (BTW, relied years lurking on this forum to explain to other parents at my son's game why an "obvious" backcourt on an inbound play wasn't . . .")

JRutledge Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:13am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 998282)
I can't tell -- the video is too small. ;)

I had a similar call in a HS game about a week ago -- it made me think that maybe there should be some sort of "momentum exception" in the rules -- similar in concept to the football rule that makes it a touchback and not a safety.

That is why there is a full screen button on every Youtube video if you personally need to see the video larger, just like you can do if watch the video on YouTube directly. Problem solved. ;)

Peace

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:41pm

I have a BC Violation. Starting with Red touching the ball, in my opinion, from what I could ascertain for the video I do not believe the Red gained PC of the Ball; and my philosophy in this situation to err on the side of the Player not gaining PC of the ball. On the other hand even in real time it was obvious that
white gained PC of the Ball in White's FC and took it into White's BC.

MTD, Sr.

Dale3 Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:55pm

I like the call. I dont think Red ever gained possession of the ball, therefore white still had team control making it easy back court. However the shot clock reset so someone thought Red gained possession.


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