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Old Fri Jan 20, 2017, 04:44pm
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I have a question regarding the use of hands by a defender after OBTAINING Legal Guarding Position.

If the defender uses her hands to grab (or attempt to grab) the ball does this impact the decision of whether the official calls a charge, a block, or nothing at all?

I have two video examples where our point guard obtains LGP and then successfully takes the ball from the ball handler. Both examples are edited into the same video clip.

For the first one, to my eyes, the defender only touches the ball and yet the official calls the foul. From an instructional perspective, I would like to know if the defender did anything wrong here?

In the second example, the defender does the same action, but no foul is called. So does "going for the ball" while in LGP make the scenario a defensive foul?

Thank you.

Here is the video...


Play 1: W4 had not obtained a LGP with respect to B4 because W4 was moving toward B4 when contact occurred. W4 has committed a Pushing Foul, which in this case is a CF.

Play 2: W4 does not have a LGP with respect to B24 but B24 has committed a Charging Foul (a CF) because W4 did have a legal position on the court and was therefore screening against B24.

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Old Fri Jan 20, 2017, 05:28pm
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Play 1: W4 had not obtained a LGP with respect to B4 because W4 was moving toward B4 when contact occurred. W4 has committed a Pushing Foul, which in this case is a CF.

Play 2: W4 does not have a LGP with respect to B24 but B24 has committed a Charging Foul (a CF) because W4 did have a legal position on the court and was therefore screening against B24.

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And, B24 travels before she commits the PC foul. Sometimes those are the best "gets" in these plays........but don't make one up! Good play for discussion!
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Old Fri Jan 20, 2017, 05:37pm
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And, B24 travels before she commits the PC foul. Sometimes those are the best "gets" in these plays........but don't make one up! Good play for discussion!

Remington:

Please read and study NFHS R4-S44.

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P.S. Not even Tom Lopes would call that traveling.
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Old Fri Jan 20, 2017, 05:45pm
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And, B24 travels before she commits the PC foul. Sometimes those are the best "gets" in these plays........but don't make one up! Good play for discussion!
?? Where do you get a travel out of that before the charge?!?
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