End of game part 2
Okay, I saw something last night I've never seen in 15 years of officiating. This happened in the game prior to mine. Was watching. This will take a while to lay out, so be patient.
Less than 5 seconds left in regulation, team A down by 2. A1 scores with 2.8 seconds to tie game. Team B coach immediately calls timeout, C gives timeout and sounds whistle more than once and came running towards table, gym is loud and packed and nobody hears whistle, as timeout whistle is sounding, B1 is inbounding ball, and it is stolen by A1, A1 goes to shoot ball and is fouled by B1, official on endline calls foul, and gives intentional foul sign. All of this happening while the clock is running out. So we have a timeout, clock doesn't stop, intentional foul prior to clock expiring. What are you going to do? |
Gonna put 2.8, or whatever time I observed, back on the clock, and proceed with the timeout.
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Meet with partners.
Explain to both coaches at the same time. Award the timeout with 2.8. Everything else came after the timeout and is to be ignored. If possible, avoid giving technical fouls to teams for coaches, players, and fans not being happy with the decision. |
It doesn't matter whether anybody heard the initial whistle or not. The fact of the matter is the official (the C in this case) awarded Team B the timeout after the made basket. What happens after that is moot. Unless something flagrant happens, such as a fight.
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For those saying you ignore everything after the unheard whistle, how do you reconcile the OP with 10-4-7?
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Grant the timeout, and afterwards award the free throws and possession accordingly. |
My point being that of the three prior answers: one answer specifically said you ignore everything after the timeout (which I assumed included the intentional foul), one suggested that you ignore everything unless flagrant (an intentional foul does not have to be flagrant), and one did not reference the foul at all.
How do you reconcile those positions with 10-4-7? |
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Unfortunately (in this case), intentional fouls are not ignored because the ball is dead. They just become T's. Intentional contact is always penalized.
Report the timeout. Report the T. Let the timeout occur. Resume after the timeout with FTs for the T. |
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Have a conference with your partners to establish the following:
1) which team called the time out. (Team B) 2) where was the status of the ball when the timeout was granted. (assuming it was before the throw-in started) 3) how much time should be put back on the clock. (2.8 seconds) 4) are we SURE the foul was intentional? Assuming the answer to #4 is yes, do the following:
If it's determined that the foul was NOT intentional:
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How exactly does one determine that a foul isn't an intentional foul after an official signals the foul as such?
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It's pretty hard to undo this train wreck after the fact.
Of course if the other official didn't signal an INT at the spot, it would be *easy* to walk that back / ignore that. |
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Go to the guy that made the call and give him additional information. "Look, timeout was called and the ball was already dead. What have you got?" Hopefully he'll say "Nothing, time out." |
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