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Old Tue Dec 20, 2016, 08:26pm
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2016, 08:35pm
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I think all 4 are correct.

1) Dribble ends with left foot as pivot. Steps with right, left comes back down.
2) First bounce is not a controlled action.
3) Clear displacement.
4) Holding the defender (wiping-out) while rolling. Illegal.
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2016, 08:39pm
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All calls should go against Maryland.

1. No travel
2. Not an illegal dribble.
3. Not a foul, but a quality acting job.
4. Illegal screen, which is followed by the defender holding. That's what the offensive player is complaining about, but his foul was first.

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Old Tue Dec 20, 2016, 08:41pm
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#3 probably would of been a problem sans the elbow shove.
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2016, 08:54pm
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#3 probably would of been a problem sans the elbow shove.
I think that is why it was called. The officials has a great look at this and better than we have. I do believe he acted a little, but the contact was illegal in my opinion.

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I think all 4 are correct.

1) Dribble ends with left foot as pivot. Steps with right, left comes back down.
2) First bounce is not a controlled action.
3) Clear displacement.
4) Holding the defender (wiping-out) while rolling. Illegal.
Agree on all 4.

#3...chucked in the back. But, it could have been passed on as there was no possession consequence. The only reason to call it would be to clean up the game if things had been too rough.

#4...holding or not, the movement into the defender driving him away from the ball is enough for it to be an illegal screen.
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Old Wed Dec 21, 2016, 08:58am
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#3...chucked in the back. But, it could have been passed on as there was no possession consequence. The only reason to call it would be to clean up the game if things had been too rough.
This was my thought as well. But, I'd venture to say that I probably would have made the same call if I was the L.
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Old Wed Dec 21, 2016, 09:11am
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1) Maybe a travel, close to tell. I don't see it.
2) Not a double dribble
3) Good call with the POE for cleaning up rebound action
4) Good call
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Old Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:29am
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#1 I would pass on the travel, it's a game interrupter there and in real time IMHO the collection does not come before "step 1" of 3 in the travel sequence.

2,3,4 all correct.

#5 I don't think the lead can see the last contact of the ball by A1. It would be up to the C to come in and help out if he sees it.
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#1 I would pass on the travel, it's a game interrupter there and in real time IMHO the collection does not come before "step 1" of 3 in the travel sequence.
Both of your reasons for not calling that a travel are invalid.

Lose the term game interrupter. It only leads not calling the game as it is designed. The defense forces the travel, they deserve the ball.

As for "collection" (or gather, as it is more commonly called), that is not the point where the travel rules start.

By definition, a player that is in control of the ball is either holding or dribbling the ball. The dribble ends (and holding begins) when the ball comes to rest in one or both hands which usually happens well before "collection". At that moment, unless you deem the player has lost control, the player is holding the ball and the travel rules begin. There is no magical third status between dribbling and holding the ball.
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Old Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:43pm
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This is why you referee the defense.

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#6...I'd stop it on white's made basket. If they had stopped pressing towards a shot, I'd stop it then.
#7. Great call....defender kept moving into the airborne shooter.
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Old Thu Dec 22, 2016, 08:36am
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#6...I'd stop it on white's made basket. If they had stopped pressing towards a shot, I'd stop it then.
#7. Great call....defender help moving into the airborne shooter.
Agreed on both, with the caveat that I didn't watch the clips all the way through.

On #6 -- what if the shot had been missed? Stop play and go to the arrow? wait for a rebound and stop it? Wait for a rebound and if white gets it and ir's an immediate put-back or drive let that play happen?

I think FED has a pretty definitive case play on this, but I don't think NCAA does.
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