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Was this a foul or violation?

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Lane Violation

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Peace

Backcourt violation appeared to occur before contact, but hard to say from that angle.

FT violation was pretty obvious, not much to discuss there.

Play 1: BC violation before foul, new Lead needs to help with this

Play 2: CC delayed lane violation

on the potential BC violation, if he is in the air when he catches the ball doesn't he get to land where he wants? Its hard to see from this angle, but let's say he leaves the floor with both feet (from the FC) and catches the ball while airborne and lands strattled on the line, isn't he considered to still be in BC status?

You are where you were till you get where you're going. Player is in front court until he lands.

To be legal on that play, he would of needed to get one foot down in the BC before he caught the ball.

The "exception" that allows an airborne player to catch the ball and make a normal landing (NFHS 9-9-3/NCAA 9-12-9,10) applies only during a throw-in, jump ball, or while on defense.

And, in case some aren't sure, if you are touching the half line, you are considered to be in the backcourt.......similar to stepping on the sideline or endline to be out of bounds.

Why was Center official so low on back court press coverage? There were two officials officiating ball and defender (2 players). Not surprised this happened with Center's positioning on this particular play.

That and he was taken out by the ball handler after making the pass.

Since we're talking mechanics/positioning, I'm not familiar with the nitty gritty of NCAA-M mechanics. On the second play, I didn't see anyone signal a delayed violation?

I see no reason why the slot came down so far. I would only do so if there were a trap down there. The trail was in a position to see the play by himself. As slot, I would have been up with the second group of players.

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I can see why he initially dropped down...but once it's evident that the matchup will be a 1 on 1 match up...and the rest of the players are going upcourt, I would have liked for the slot to work upcourt.

I don't see why he dropped down. It was a one-on-one match up. He had a group of 4 other players in the back court who needed attention.

Because once you make that signal you are obligate to make the call. It has it's time and place.

The person who should have displayed that signal did not, so another official made the call.

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What do you mean by this? Are you suggesting that you would not have called this a violation?

This was an obvious violation. What I mean is that once you make that signal you are obligated to make the call, there may be situations where there are circumstances that you may not want to make the call (it's similar to a preliminary on a block charge from the C or T, if you don't signal you don't have a call either way). If the violation happens early enough you can make the signal. This violation happened close enough to the release where the signal wasn't necessary.

Technically you are not obligated if the try is successful

Foul, No Violation
 

According to Rule 9.9, there is not violation because there has been no established position in the front court. All of the discussion so far appears to be that the ball is in the front court already. The jumping from the front court to the back court is not a factor because nothing has been established yet.

"in order to have a backcourt violation, “player and team” control must first be established in the frontcourt. This means a player must have been dribbling or holding the ball entirely in the frontcourt."

Isn't this a true statement? Now if his back foot lands in the newly established front court then when his front foot lands in the now defined back court it would be a violation. But in this case it would be a foul (based on the angle that I see visable)

The player's location is where he jumped from. He jumped from the FC and touched the ball in the air. Then he appears to land at least in part in the BC. That is a violation.

Peace

An airborne player retains the status of where he last touched the floor. You have frontcourt status if you jump from the frontcourt and have backcourt status once you land.

And player control is not (necessarily) required in the frontcourt to have a backcourt violation.

It's really not that complicated in this play. The Slot official missed the violation and the Lead came in with the whistle.

Player and team control had already been established, then a pass was thrown between teammates. The receiving teammate jumped from the FC (he continues to have FC status until he lands) and catches the ball. Now you have player and team control in the FC (player control in the FC is not actually required, but it's hear in this play). As soon as he lands in the BC you have a violation.

I believe the Lead did make the delayed violation call and the whistle heard in the video is his, despite the lack of a delayed violation signal.