6 Players penalty

[BigT]

Last night for the first time ever I had a player from team visitor twice run out onto the court.

All we did was apply a team foul shot 2 and gave the offended team the ball.

Texting friends this morning. They all seem to think that it is a team foul, player T and an indirect to the coach.

The book doesn't seem to support this yet sometimes technicals and there different types aren't always clear so I wanted to ask my forum vets.

Thanks in advance

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BigT

Last night for the first time ever I had a player from team visitor twice run out onto the court.

All we did was apply a team foul shot 2 and gave the offended team the ball.

Texting friends this morning. They all seem to think that it is a team foul, player T and an indirect to the coach.

The book doesn't seem to support this yet sometimes technicals and there different types aren't always clear so I wanted to ask my forum vets.

Thanks in advance

If you catch 6 on the floor while being violated it is a TEAM technical. 2 shots ball at division line. It does not go to a player or coach. It does go towards team foul count.

Now, if a sub simply runs onto the floor. That is a SUBSTITUTE technical. It applies toward his five fouls, it is one of his two techs, and toward team foul count. does not go to coach or affect his box in either case.

Rule 10.

[RefsNCoaches]

Wasn't there at one time ...direct and indirect for the HC? 2 directs on HC or 3 indirect would be ejection....I seem to recall that in the rule book at some point in past.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by RefsNCoaches

Wasn't there at one time ...direct and indirect for the HC? 2 directs on HC or 3 indirect would be ejection....I seem to recall that in the rule book at some point in past.

You have to look at the rules and read over and over. Rule 10 deals with this stuff. There are now administrative technicals, team technicals, substitute technicals, and more etc. Administrative, and team technicals are assessed and apply to team foul count only. Substitute techs apply to the player but not to the coach. If a player dunks in pre game, member of bench personnel, the player gets a T and the coach gets an indirect and loses the box.

Not all Ts are assessed to coach. You need to know what is and isn't.

[BigT]

The sub technical makes sense. Player fails to report and jumps on the court. I dont think I have ever seen it called. Ive seen too many tell them to go report.

This situation its a live ball just after we have started up after a dead ball and she runs onto the court.

This seems more like the definition of team technical.

Have I separated these well.

Thanks everyone for the feedback. The summary was helpful for other things not really for this situation and how to decide which one to use.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BigT

The sub technical makes sense. Player fails to report and jumps on the court. I dont think I have ever seen it called. Ive seen too many tell them to go report.

This situation its a live ball just after we have started up after a dead ball and she runs onto the court.

This seems more like the definition of team technical.

Have I separated these well.

Thanks everyone for the feedback. The summary was helpful for other things not really for this situation and how to decide which one to use.

Read rule 10 over and over and rules 1-9…and all of case book. If a player runs onto court without reporting and you see that or are told that so and so didn't report and just ran out then call it a substitute technical. That player gets a T and it goes toward team foul count. If you just find 6 on the floor and nobody knows what the hell happened then you call T for 6 on floor. That is a team technical. The summary helps after you have read the rules over and over and over…..

[BigT]

Why is the penalty bigger for a dead ball sub coming onto the court vs live ball a player comes flying onto the court..?

[LRZ]

BigT, look at the Technical-Foul Penalty Summary, near the back of the NFHS rule book.