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Sharpshooternes Tue Nov 29, 2016 03:21am
Foul or held
 
A1 goes up for short jumper. B1 gets a hand on top of the ball at exactly the same time asB2 hits A1 in the head. What ya got?

Camron Rust Tue Nov 29, 2016 03:57am
Foul.

B1, having a hand on top of the ball, may not have prevented the release of the shot...at least not yet. Absent the foul, A1 may have been able to release the shot (or pass the ball).

AremRed Tue Nov 29, 2016 08:33am
I'd have to see video for the exact timing/look of the play but sounds like a foul.

bob jenkins Tue Nov 29, 2016 08:48am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 993717)
A1 goes up for short jumper. B1 gets a hand on top of the ball at exactly the same time asB2 hits A1 in the head. What ya got?
"Putting a hand on top of the ball" does not (yet; in-and-of-itself) result in a held ball.

If you mean "a held ball happens at exactly the same time as a foul" then the officials need to decide which happened first. By rule or interp, there are no ties of this sort in basketball.

Sharpshooternes Sat Dec 10, 2016 05:28am
I went with the foul.

billyu2 Sat Dec 10, 2016 07:56am
Good call, ref!

BryanV21 Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:11am
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 993726)
"Putting a hand on top of the ball" does not (yet; in-and-of-itself) result in a held ball.

If you mean "a held ball happens at exactly the same time as a foul" then the officials need to decide which happened first. By rule or interp, there are no ties of this sort in basketball.
Sorry, but being a baseball fan and former umpire, whenever I read something like this it makes me think...

"there are no such thing as 'ties'. Either the runner was out or safe."


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