Kicking this Rule 10-4-6-d

[BigT]

I like to say hands down. Then warn the player not to do it again.

I dont think any of us like a T here. Clearly the reason for it is safety. Why not give a foul and tell the coach. I warned him twice he kept doing it. I think a T hurts your team to much so I gave a common foul. Can you please have a talk with him.

Again talking its going to prevent this when you see it every 1000 games. I doubt anyone will have to make a decision on this.

I think we kick a lot more things much worse than this. It is an interesting discussion.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by BigT

I like to say hands down. Then warn the player not to do it again.

I dont think any of us like a T here. Clearly the reason for it is safety. Why not give a foul and tell the coach. I warned him twice he kept doing it. I think a T hurts your team to much so I gave a common foul. Can you please have a talk with him.

Again talking its going to prevent this when you see it every 1000 games. I doubt anyone will have to make a decision on this.

I think we kick a lot more things much worse than this. It is an interesting discussion.

Stick to reffing.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BigT

I like to say hands down. Then warn the player not to do it again.

I dont think any of us like a T here. Clearly the reason for it is safety. Why not give a foul and tell the coach. I warned him twice he kept doing it. I think a T hurts your team to much so I gave a common foul. Can you please have a talk with him.

Again talking its going to prevent this when you see it every 1000 games. I doubt anyone will have to make a decision on this.

I think we kick a lot more things much worse than this. It is an interesting discussion.

If you think it's enough of a problem to address, then address with the proper remedy, not something that is made up and cannot be defended by your supervisor/assignor.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by BigT

I warned him twice he kept doing it. I think a T hurts your team to much so I gave a common foul. .

So, you're giving someone a common foul for no contact? That's a harder sell than just doing what the rule says to do.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigT

I like to say hands down. Then warn the player not to do it again.

I dont think any of us like a T here. Clearly the reason for it is safety. Why not give a foul and tell the coach. I warned him twice he kept doing it. I think a T hurts your team to much so I gave a common foul. Can you please have a talk with him.

Again talking its going to prevent this when you see it every 1000 games. I doubt anyone will have to make a decision on this.

I think we kick a lot more things much worse than this. It is an interesting discussion.

You actually see this often enough to have a standard approach? I've literally seen it once (maybe twice), and that was YMCA girls ball. The defender put her hand within an inch of her opponent's eyes. One warning stopped her.

I actually do like a T on this, because it's a safety concern. There's a reason we don't see it: it's not basketball. It's actually poor defense.

[UNIgiantslayers]

Originally Posted by BigT

I like to say hands down. Then warn the player not to do it again.

I dont think any of us like a T here. Clearly the reason for it is safety. Why not give a foul and tell the coach. I warned him twice he kept doing it. I think a T hurts your team to much so I gave a common foul. Can you please have a talk with him.

Again talking its going to prevent this when you see it every 1000 games. I doubt anyone will have to make a decision on this.

I think we kick a lot more things much worse than this. It is an interesting discussion.

I have to imagine the opposing coach would not be happy with this.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

I have to imagine the opposing coach would not be happy with this.

+1

Never say anything to one coach that you wouldn't want the other coach to hear.

[JetMetFan]

I have seen 10-4-6d once in 25+ years of officiating and never in a game I was working (I was a radio broadcaster). There were three of us on the broadcast. I was the only one who had a clue what the officials were calling.

B2 was chasing A2 in the frontcourt in an end-of-game throw-in situation. In an attempt to keep A2 from receiving a pass, B2 followed A2 with both hands in front of A2's face. It was his sole method of trying to play defense. It was so obvious it had to be called.

That is when you should use that rule.

[01tj]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I have seen 10-4-6d once in 25+ years of officiating and never in a game I was working (I was a radio broadcaster). There were three of us on the broadcast. I was the only one who had a clue what the officials were calling.

B2 was chasing A2 in the frontcourt in an end-of-game throw-in situation. In an attempt to keep A2 from receiving a pass, B2 followed A2 with both hands in front of A2's face. It was his sole method of trying to play defense. It was so obvious it had to be called.

That is when you should use that rule.

I've never seen this in an officiated game but I've seen guys in pick up games get beat and reach around the ball handlers head and cover their eyes as they go up for a layup. By the rule they are not really putting the shooter in danger but that's not legal defense is it?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by 01tj

I've never seen this in an officiated game but I've seen guys in pick up games get beat and reach around the ball handlers head and cover their eyes as they go up for a layup. By the rule they are not really putting the shooter in danger but that's not legal defense is it?

By rule, they are breaking the rule. Safety may be the reason for the rule, but it is not a proximate need to make a call.

Pick-up ball is a completely different animal. Proceed at your own risk.