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Old Thu Oct 20, 2016, 11:46am
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I've used the finger swirlie for basket interference before, even though it's unapproved. Not saying I should, just saying I have.

I've never used it to indicate a free throw missed the ring.
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Old Thu Oct 20, 2016, 01:33pm
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How/why has the "finger swirlie" persisted for such a long time ?
Because to some ways of thinking, every violation needs a signal.

It's much like how hooking, tripping, hit to the head etc. were not in the NCAA book but were still used -- despite the admonition to "use only approved signals."

Then, one year they were added with the explanation "Information and aids communication and some officials have been using them and they are good." -- Well, if officials weren't using the "unapproved" signals, we never would have known how good they were.
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Old Thu Oct 20, 2016, 01:41pm
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Well-stated, thanks BJ.
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Old Thu Oct 20, 2016, 02:10pm
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Because to some ways of thinking, every violation needs a signal.

It's much like how hooking, tripping, hit to the head etc. were not in the NCAA book but were still used -- despite the admonition to "use only approved signals."

Then, one year they were added with the explanation "Information and aids communication and some officials have been using them and they are good." -- Well, if officials weren't using the "unapproved" signals, we never would have known how good they were.
This year, at least 3 signals on the men's side were added that fit what you're saying
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This year, at least 3 signals on the men's side were added that fit what you're saying
Except for the cylinder/vertically foul. That signal comes from Australian Rules Football.
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Old Thu Oct 20, 2016, 10:22pm
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This year, at least 3 signals on the men's side were added that fit what you're saying

I love this. To me, if an unapproved signal improves communication with a coach, I'm all for it. Perhaps a high school table won't understand it, but I really don't care because all I need to make sure they know is color and number.

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Except for the cylinder/vertically foul. That signal comes from Australian Rules Football.

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