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JoeFilz Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:52am

Is it legal for a shot to be blocked after a foul has been called?
 
Here to settle an argument with a friend.

According to NBA rules, is it legal for another player to block a shot after his teammate committed a foul on a shooter? Example: Kyrie Irving is fouled by Chris Paul during a layup attempt...can Deandre Jordan block the shot on its way up after the whistle? Or would it then be considered goaltend/interference since the play is already dead?

Thanks!

Rich Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:17am

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Originally Posted by JoeFilz (Post 989295)
Here to settle an argument with a friend.

According to NBA rules, is it legal for another player to block a shot after his teammate committed a foul on a shooter? Example: Kyrie Irving is fouled by Chris Paul during a layup attempt...can Deandre Jordan block the shot on its way up after the whistle? Or would it then be considered goaltend/interference since the play is already dead?

Thanks!

Legal at any level of the game.

BktBallRef Sat Jul 23, 2016 01:47pm

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Originally Posted by JoeFilz (Post 989295)
Here to settle an argument with a friend.

According to NBA rules, is it legal for another player to block a shot after his teammate committed a foul on a shooter? Example: Kyrie Irving is fouled by Chris Paul during a layup attempt...can Deandre Jordan block the shot on its way up after the whistle? Or would it then be considered goaltend/interference since the play is already dead?

Thanks!

Goaltending is touching the ball while it's on it's downward flight with a chance to go into the basket.

Basket interference is touching the ball or the basket while the ball is in the cylinder or touching the rim.

Legally blocking a shot is neither of those.

I hope you got it right!

APG Sat Jul 23, 2016 07:27pm

NBA Case Book (2015-2016)

172. A player of Team B blocks a field goal attempt after the whistle has been sounded for a personal foul. Is this goaltending?

No. A blocked shot by Team B after the whistle has sounded is part of a continuous defensive movement. So long as Player B does not violate the goaltending rule, it is a legal defensive play. RULE 11 - SECTION I

crosscountry55 Sat Jul 23, 2016 09:57pm

No rules reference from my couch, but the long and short of it is that the ball does not become dead when the foul by the defense occurs after the shooter has begun the habitual motion (def. of continuous motion). So if the ball is not dead, it is perfectly susceptible to being blocked.

If so, tip your cap to the blocker, but the shooter still gets two free throws.

Had goaltending or defensive BI occurred in this scenario, award the points and shoot one free throw.

bob jenkins Sun Jul 24, 2016 07:28am

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Originally Posted by crosscountry55 (Post 989306)
No rules reference from my couch, but the long and short of it is that the ball does not become dead when the foul by the defense occurs after the shooter has begun the habitual motion (def. of continuous motion). So if the ball is not dead, it is perfectly susceptible to being blocked.

And, if the foul is before the habitual motion, the ball is dead, so it's not a try, and it's legal to "block" the ball.

I suppose one can certainly come up with some "unsporting" scenario surrounding this, but that's an entirely different set of rules involved.

Camron Rust Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:18am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 989309)
And, if the foul is before the habitual motion, the ball is dead, so it's not a try, and it's legal to "block" the ball.

I suppose one can certainly come up with some "unsporting" scenario surrounding this, but that's an entirely different set of rules involved.

I can't think of any way to get to an unsporting act just for blocking the shot after the whistle that would otherwise be legal. The defense gets to play defense as long as the ball is live. The only way I'd have anything is if there were specific infractions committed in the process of blocking the shot independent of the whistle.

SNIPERBBB Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:22am

As a hypothetical... A1 has the ball at the FTE line, back turned towards the baskwt. Team A coach asks for and is granted a timeout. Well after the request is granted the TO, A1 shoots towards A basket and B1 blocks the ball into the stands.

ODog Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:18pm

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 989333)
As a hypothetical... Team A coach is granted a timeout. Well after the request is granted, A1 shoots and B1 blocks it into the stands.

I'm a lot more inclined to have an issue with A1 here than B1 ... if I'm moved to care about this one at all, that is.

APG Mon Jul 25, 2016 02:41pm

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 989333)
As a hypothetical... A1 has the ball at the FTE line, back turned towards the baskwt. Team A coach asks for and is granted a timeout. Well after the request is granted the TO, A1 shoots towards A basket and B1 blocks the ball into the stands.

"Go get the ball B1"

Adam Mon Jul 25, 2016 03:19pm

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 989341)
"Go get the ball B1"

Yep, and I have no issue giving a T if he doesn't.

Camron Rust Mon Jul 25, 2016 04:34pm

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 989333)
As a hypothetical... A1 has the ball at the FTE line, back turned towards the baskwt. Team A coach asks for and is granted a timeout. Well after the request is granted the TO, A1 shoots towards A basket and B1 blocks the ball into the stands.

The context of the original play was a whistle for a foul in the act of shooting.

This is a very different situation.

I guess you could tell them both that the one who doesn't go get it gets a T....that will get them racing to it. ;)

BktBallRef Wed Jul 27, 2016 08:38pm

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 989333)
As a hypothetical... A1 has the ball at the FTE line, back turned towards the baskwt. Team A coach asks for and is granted a timeout. Well after the request is granted the TO, A1 shoots towards A basket and B1 blocks the ball into the stands.

Nothing.


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