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rockyroad Mon May 09, 2016 03:26pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 987277)
Because of the overt political leanings of the University.

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Does renting the facilities somehow imply agreement with those overt political leanings???

Camron Rust Mon May 09, 2016 04:09pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 987340)
Does renting the facilities somehow imply agreement with those overt political leanings???

If organizations should avoid using facilities with political leanings, few, perhaps no, states would be able to use any college facility. Or are we to only be tolerant of like-minded people?

Raymond Tue May 10, 2016 05:31am

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 987340)
Does renting the facilities somehow imply agreement with those overt political leanings???

You asked a question, I answered it. I didn't make any judgments about the situation.

Any further explanations you need to ask the person who made the original comment.

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Rich Tue May 10, 2016 08:21am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 987341)
If organizations should avoid using facilities with political leanings, few, perhaps no, states would be able to use any college facility. Or are we to only be tolerant of like-minded people?

That's if we buy the assumption that public universities have a political leaning.

Raymond Tue May 10, 2016 08:48am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 987369)
That's if we buy the assumption that public universities have a political leaning.

And Liberty is not a public school. All other facilities utilized by the VHSL are either public high schools/colleges or arenas run by local municipalities. Thus, maybe why the poster said he is shocked Liberty has been used all these years.

RefCT Tue May 10, 2016 09:41am

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 987340)
Does renting the facilities somehow imply agreement with those overt political leanings???

The CIAC in CT uses Mohegan Sun for their state championships. I don't think that implies they support gambling, drinking and smoking, although I wonder what effect it has on teenagers that aren't exposed to it in any other public place in CT (well, gambling and smoking).

I know the officials that go to watch the games and support other officials will sometimes get hotel rooms and spend the night drinking and gambling away. Nice way to celebrate the end of the year with fellow friends.

Camron Rust Tue May 10, 2016 11:39am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 987369)
That's if we buy the assumption that public universities have a political leaning.

They may not do so officially, but to say they don't is ignoring reality.

BillyMac Tue May 10, 2016 04:39pm

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Originally Posted by RefCT (Post 987377)
The CIAC in CT uses Mohegan Sun for their state championships. I don't think that implies they support gambling, drinking and smoking, although I wonder what effect it has on teenagers that aren't exposed to it in any other public place in CT (well, gambling and smoking).

This didn't happen without some degree of controversy. Many high school principals were totally against this. Eventually the Mohegans gave our high schools an offer that they couldn't refuse. Top notch facility (home of WNBA Connecticut Sun). Plenty of free parking. An affordable rental fee.

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Raymond Tue May 10, 2016 08:37pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 987379)
They may not do so officially, but to say they don't is ignoring reality.

Only universities in Virginia known for overt political leanings are Regent University (for profit, commuter type school) and Liberty. Safe to say I'm pretty familiar with how things are in Virginia.

DRJ1960 Tue May 10, 2016 10:22pm

I would respectfully disagree with my friend.

VaTerp Tue May 10, 2016 11:05pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 987341)
If organizations should avoid using facilities with political leanings, few, perhaps no, states would be able to use any college facility. Or are we to only be tolerant of like-minded people?

There is a significant difference between "political leanings" and being overtly political. I'd like to know of another college- in the country-whose facilities are used where the university president publically endorsed a political candidate during a primary.

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Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 987328)
Maybe because it is centrally located in state and has fantastic facilities for high school post season structure and events

Its not centrally located to the majority of schools in the VHSL.

letemplay Wed May 11, 2016 09:28am

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Originally Posted by VaTerp (Post 987393)



Its not centrally located to the majority of schools in the VHSL.

I would disagree, unless by "majority" you mean (by sheer numbers) schools either in 757 or NOVA. What's now "centrally located", after moving from Lynchburg, about teams traveling all the way to Hampton Roads area for a state championship? Unless you are from that area, and of course one team in the final could be, but not BOTH.

VaTerp Wed May 11, 2016 10:21am

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Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 987399)
I would disagree, unless by "majority" you mean (by sheer numbers) schools either in 757 or NOVA. What's now "centrally located", after moving from Lynchburg, about teams traveling all the way to Hampton Roads area for a state championship? Unless you are from that area, and of course one team in the final could be, but not BOTH.

Liberty University is not centrally located to the majority (yes, by sheer numbers, not sure of any other meaning that would apply) of schools in VHSL. Richmond and Charlottesville are centrally located. Lynchburg is not.

And I'm not suggesting that the Hampton Roads area is centrally located because it clearly is not either. But two teams from that area could indeed play in the state final.

I'm not really offering my opinion on the VHSL location changes. I'm just pointing out facts, which are that Liberty is overtly political-unlike any other site used by VHSL- and that it is, as a matter of fact, not centrally located in the state.

letemplay Wed May 11, 2016 01:17pm

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Originally Posted by VaTerp (Post 987401)

And I'm not suggesting that the Hampton Roads area is centrally located because it clearly is not either. But two teams from that area could indeed play in the state final.

Ok I'll give you some of that...not the first time I "called one out of my area"...but are you sure of this statement? I thought teams from same area were eliminated at the semis...in most sports at least

BillyMac Wed May 11, 2016 05:24pm

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Originally Posted by VaTerp (Post 987401)
Liberty University is not centrally located to the majority (yes, by sheer numbers, not sure of any other meaning that would apply) of schools in VHSL. Richmond and Charlottesville are centrally located. Lynchburg is not. And I'm not suggesting that the Hampton Roads area is centrally located because it clearly is not either. But two teams from that area could indeed play in the state final.


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The geographic center of Virgina is located about halfway (as the bus travels) between Richmond and Lynchburg.


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