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Old Wed Apr 06, 2016, 11:25am
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Traveling or Fumbled Ball
Player A is driblbling ball in his own half court near the sideline ...he stops his dribble catching the ball in his left hand ...as the defender tries to reach in for the ball ... player A then takes the ball behind his back but catches on his rear cheek ...the ball becomes dislodged from his possession and rolls a couple of feet away there is a scramble for the ball ... but player A wins back possession ...the opposing coach wants a traveling call ...but I think its a fumbled ball ... your opinions please!
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Old Wed Apr 06, 2016, 11:33am
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Sure sounds like "an accidental loss of player control" (or whatever the specific wording is in the Fumble definition).
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Old Wed Apr 06, 2016, 11:46am
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Player A is driblbling ball in his own half court near the sideline ...he stops his dribble catching the ball in his left hand ...as the defender tries to reach in for the ball ... player A then takes the ball behind his back but catches on his rear cheek ...the ball becomes dislodged from his possession and rolls a couple of feet away there is a scramble for the ball ... but player A wins back possession ...the opposing coach wants a traveling call ...but I think its a fumbled ball ... your opinions please!
What did the player do to make this a travel?
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Old Wed Apr 06, 2016, 11:52am
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I think the coach is thinking in this play Player A changed his actual physical position on the floor without a dribble or a touch by another player (especially after Player A had ended his dribble) ...I'm thinking the ole myth of a "self-pass play" was his perspective
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Old Wed Apr 06, 2016, 05:26pm
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I think the coach is thinking in this play Player A changed his actual physical position on the floor without a dribble or a touch by another player (especially after Player A had ended his dribble) ...I'm thinking the ole myth of a "self-pass play" was his perspective
Nothing about what you described is necessary for a travel to occur.
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Old Wed Apr 06, 2016, 07:32pm
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... player A then takes the ball behind his back but catches on his rear cheek ...the ball becomes dislodged from his possession
Depending on this, it may have been a travel......but this sounds like a HTBT situation.

If you think it was fumbled, then go with that.
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Old Thu Apr 07, 2016, 08:27am
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Without possession of the ball a travel violation is not possible.
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Old Thu Apr 07, 2016, 09:35am
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Without possession of the ball a travel violation is not possible.
The scenario described, may be considered - by some - to be an illegal dribble.
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Old Thu Apr 07, 2016, 10:47am
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It's not an illegal dribble either. The ball became dislodged after he picked it up with his left hand. He then went and picked the ball up. There was no dribble after the fumble. Did team B ever touch the ball during the scramble?
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Old Thu Apr 07, 2016, 01:04pm
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The scenario described, may be considered - by some - to be an illegal dribble.
No way this could be considered an illegal dribble. Those who disagree simply don't understand the idea of fumble.
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Old Thu Apr 07, 2016, 02:56pm
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No way this could be considered an illegal dribble. Those who disagree simply don't understand the idea of fumble.
The player could've taken steps before the ol' ball off the butt move.

However, as described I completely agree.
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Old Thu Apr 07, 2016, 09:41pm
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The player could've taken steps before the ol' ball off the butt move.

However, as described I completely agree.
That's still not an illegal dribble.
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Old Fri Apr 08, 2016, 10:09am
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That's still not an illegal dribble.
If only you had made it to the second line.
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Old Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:15am
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...the opposing coach wants a traveling call
Yawn...what else is new. This time of year (if this is an actual recent play) this is rec league or AAU, where we find many clueless coaches.. I'm assuming YOU are wearing a stripe shirt and have a whistle? 'Nuff said
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Old Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:31am
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Yawn...what else is new. This time of year (if this is an actual recent play) this is rec league or AAU, where we find many clueless coaches.. I'm assuming YOU are wearing a stripe shirt and have a whistle? 'Nuff said
I expect coaches to want travels year around.
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