Rob1968 BEAREF wroteWithout possession of the ball a travel violation is not possible. The scenario described, may be considered - by some - to be an illegal dribble.
OKREF It's not an illegal dribble either. The ball became dislodged after he picked it up with his left hand. He then went and picked the ball up. There was no dribble after the fumble. Did team B ever touch the ball during the scramble?
Adam Rob1968 wroteThe scenario described, may be considered - by some - to be an illegal dribble. No way this could be considered an illegal dribble. Those who disagree simply don't understand the idea of fumble.
Dad Adam wroteNo way this could be considered an illegal dribble. Those who disagree simply don't understand the idea of fumble. The player could've taken steps before the ol' ball off the butt move. However, as described I completely agree.
OKREF Dad wroteThe player could've taken steps before the ol' ball off the butt move. However, as described I completely agree. That's still not an illegal dribble.
letemplay mickhickva wrote ...the opposing coach wants a traveling call Yawn...what else is new. This time of year (if this is an actual recent play) this is rec league or AAU, where we find many clueless coaches.. I'm assuming YOU are wearing a stripe shirt and have a whistle? 'Nuff said
Dad letemplay wroteYawn...what else is new. This time of year (if this is an actual recent play) this is rec league or AAU, where we find many clueless coaches.. I'm assuming YOU are wearing a stripe shirt and have a whistle? 'Nuff said I expect coaches to want travels year around.
Adam Dad wroteI expect coaches to want travels year around. True, but the high school coaches don't generally ask for it on a fumble. Not as often as AAU coaches, anyway.
Dad Adam wroteTrue, but the high school coaches don't generally ask for it on a fumble. Not as often as AAU coaches, anyway. I tune out off-season coaches so it sounds about the same. 🙂 Not that I get to this year because I have to do PT for 5-8 months. 🙁
rbruno It's a pet peeve of mine. When a player loses control while dribbling and the whole gym wants a travel because it just plain looks ugly. Its NOT travelling. The thing is that too many officials see it as a travel and call it. When that call is made no one in the building says a word (except me in my head when my partner makes it) and you play on. But the call is incorrect and should it not be called a travel. Maybe an illegal dribble if the ball is touched with two hands and the dribble continues. You'd like to think that at the end of close/big game that the correct call will be made and NO travel called despite the opposing team/fans being incensed and going home thinking that the "refs" (its always both or all three refs they refer to) screwed them.
Camron Rust rbruno wroteit's a pet peeve of mine. When a player loses control while dribbling and the whole gym wants a travel because it just plain looks ugly. Its not travelling. The thing is that too many officials see it as a travel and call it. When that call is made no one in the building says a word (except me in my head when my partner makes it) and you play on. But the call is incorrect and should it not be called a travel. Maybe an illegal dribble if the ball is touched with two hands and the dribble continues. You'd like to think that at the end of close/big game that the correct call will be made and no travel called despite the opposing team/fans being incensed and going home thinking that the "refs" (its always both or all three refs they refer to) screwed them. ^^^^^ yes