Hand is ball?

[Mr.C]

agreed, the gym wants everything if its for their team. Incidental contact, even audible, is not necessarily a foul.

[Rich]

It's damned hard to get the hand without getting the wrist. One's incidental contact by rule, one may be a foul.

[packersowner]

I had a conversation with a fellow official about this last year (i think) - he was discussing an officiating instructional video that he had watched that had some statistics about the amount of times a defender contacts the hand and the contact with the wrist/arm, etc. Someone else might know more details.

I remember thinking that going back and through, analyzing these plays and coming up with a statistical chance of something happening can be really good or it can be really bad. Interesting nonetheless.

[JRutledge]

I do not call fouls based on what I "hear" I call fouls based on what happened. Hearing skin hit each other is not unusual and still might not change the result of the play. If you saw the hand hit and that is all, then that is not a foul if that hand is touching the ball. I do not care what people in the gym think. Learned long time ago to ignore them if you want to do your job.

Peace