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Nevadaref Sat Mar 19, 2016 04:35pm

Inadvertent whistle? NCAA tourney- Indiana v Kentucky
 
Did DJ Carstensen just have an inadvertent whistle in the Kentucky-Indiana game? Just prior to 13:00 left in the first half.

frezer11 Sat Mar 19, 2016 04:37pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 984649)
Did DJ Carstensen just have an inadvertent whistle in the Kentucky-Indiana game? Just prior to 13:00 left in the first half.

And he didn't acknowledge it. I don't want to blame before knowing for sure, but it sure seemed pretty obvious

frezer11 Sat Mar 19, 2016 04:43pm

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Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 984652)
And he didn't acknowledge it. I don't want to blame before knowing for sure, but it sure seemed pretty obvious

Actually I know it was for sure, I went back and looked, and the clock stopped automatically for about a 4 count immediately after

Nevadaref Sat Mar 19, 2016 04:56pm

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Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 984656)
Actually I know it was for sure, I went back and looked, and the clock stopped automatically for about a 4 count immediately after

Most of the players stopped too.

Adam Sat Mar 19, 2016 05:04pm

Is there a learning opportunity for those of us on this board?

Nevadaref Sat Mar 19, 2016 05:17pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 984659)
Is there a learning opportunity for those of us on this board?

Are you posting this in every thread now?

thedewed Sat Mar 19, 2016 05:21pm

many players heard, stopped, gestured to him, from both teams.

and yes, the teaching point is don't let your ego get the best of you to the detriment of the game. everyone will have far more respect for you in the long run when you do fess up, and more importantly, it is the right thing to do.

Nevadaref Sat Mar 19, 2016 05:33pm

I think that a discussion of what to do when the players stop would be worthwhile. It could have been a whistle from the stands.

Adam Sat Mar 19, 2016 05:33pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 984662)
Are you posting this in every thread now?

If the purpose of the thread is unclear, I might.

There's a lot to be learned watching these plays, and that's fine. We don't want this to turn into a venue to just complain about mistakes made at a level very few of us will ever work.

Nevadaref Sat Mar 19, 2016 05:39pm

So what if it does. As long as the officials aren't being denigrated personally, I don't see anything wrong with critiquing their performances or decisions on individual plays. Plenty can be learned from just talking about basketball and if a situation sparks discussion, that's good.

Raymond Sat Mar 19, 2016 06:03pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 984668)
I think that a discussion of what to do when the players stop would be worthwhile. It could have been a whistle from the stands.

If an officials inadvertently blows his whistle then the crew needs to stop the game and restart it at the POI.

Rich Sat Mar 19, 2016 06:05pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 984681)
If an officials inadvertently blows his whistle then the crew needs to stop the game and restart it at the POI.

We have the occasional IW in football. In the heat of the moment, the person that blows it sometimes "hopes that nobody hears it" which just compounds the problem.

I've had a couple in my career. It's important to own it, accept some kvetching about it, then move on.....by rule.

Nevadaref Sat Mar 19, 2016 06:07pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 984681)
If an officials inadvertently blows his whistle then the crew needs to stop the game and restart it at the POI.

Thanks for the info. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Nevadaref Sat Mar 19, 2016 06:08pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 984682)
We have the occasional IW in football. In the heat of the moment, the person that blows it sometimes "hopes that nobody hears it" which just compounds the problem.

I've had a couple in my career. It's important to own it, accept some kvetching about it, then move on.....by rule.

A discussion on this point or how to handle a whistle from the spectators which impacts play is what I'd like to see in this thread.

Rich Sat Mar 19, 2016 06:12pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 984685)
A discussion on this point or how to handle a whistle from the spectators which impacts play is what I'd like to see in this thread.

I'm not sure what you're looking for -- it's not that complicated as I see it.

If I'm one of the other two officials and I hear a whistle (from another official or the crowd), I like to hope I'm shutting things down. If I blow a whistle inadvertently, I'm shutting it down.

What else is there?

BNR was much more succinct.


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