Two Block Charge Calls (Videos)

[JRutledge]

You make the call.



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[BryanV21]

Two charges

[Nevadaref]

Both charges, but I would rather see the Lead get the opportunity to make the call on the second one. The C never gave him the chance.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Both charges, but I would rather see the Lead get the opportunity to make the call on the second one. The C never gave him the chance.

Well that is not how it is taught (at least here). We like to give the C the shot at this play as it come totally from their area. I have no issues with who called it either way and that is likely why the L laid off the signal.

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[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well that is not how it is taught (at least here). We like to give the C the shot at this play as it come totally from their area. I have no issues with who called it either way and that is likely why the L laid off the signal.

Peace

I'm surprised to hear that. White #1 is the primary defender and the charge is taken by a secondary defender. I believe that the primary defender and dribbler obscure the view of the C from the secondary defender. I certainly wouldn't teach that this is the C's play.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I'm surprised to hear that. White #1 is the primary defender and the charge is taken by a secondary defender. I believe that the primary defender and dribbler obscure the view of the C from the secondary defender. I certainly wouldn't teach that this is the C's play.

That is fine, but this is what we do here for the most part as I stated. The ball is coming from the Center all the way hard to the basket, not hard to pick up the defender who is really on the outside of the lane. No problem with the double whistle, but they do not really want the Lead calling that across the lane. Been doing it that way for years and it keeps from there being a "blarge" IMO.

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[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I'm surprised to hear that. White #1 is the primary defender and the charge is taken by a secondary defender. I believe that the primary defender and dribbler obscure the view of the C from the secondary defender. I certainly wouldn't teach that this is the C's play.

Agree. We also teach that this is the lead's since the secondary defender came from within the lead's primary to set up for the charge.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well that is not how it is taught (at least here). We like to give the C the shot at this play as it come totally from their area. I have no issues with who called it either way and that is likely why the L laid off the signal.

Peace

Unfortunately what Rut said is true. This is how HS officials are taught to handle this player in our area. The few times a year I work HS games, we pregame that L is taking these plays when they involve secondary defenders. Often, at least one member of the crew isn't familiar with the concept of secondary defenders, so we end up just going with L gets first crack on all these plays and as T or C it is ok to have a whistle, but you need to hold your preliminary signal.

[Raymond]

Look like 2 good calls to me. 2nd crash was outside the paint on the C's side, so I have no problem with him taking that call.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Unfortunately what Rut said is true. This is how HS officials are taught to handle this player in our area. The few times a year I work HS games, we pregame that L is taking these plays when they involve secondary defenders. Often, at least one member of the crew isn't familiar with the concept of secondary defenders, so we end up just going with L gets first crack on all these plays and as T or C it is ok to have a whistle, but you need to hold your preliminary signal.

I have done it this way for as long as I can remember. I do not like the idea of a Lead calling across the lane. If they have something to call, get the heck over there. Secondary defenders are not difficult for a C in this case as they are seeing where the ball handler is going. Now if the contact is totally in the lane the play came down the middle of the lane, I would agree. But to me the Center say the entire thing. The Lead should know this and at least be slower.

I think that is more of a college concept and was started because the Lead officials acted like they did not know how to have a double whistle.

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