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Green Bay announcer ejected during Horizon League tournament game

Never seen something like this before...

Ridiculous move by the official. Don't get me wrong, I cringe whenever I hear the likes of Vitale and Bilas butcher a rule, but this is just stupid.

I can tell you if someone at the table is behaving like that in a high school game, he's likely going to be shown the door.

I'm guessing he wasn't doing any more waving when he came back to the booth.

If I warn the guy likely is turning into definite.

I don't know about this, I would absolutely do it too. If the guy is at the table, then he's not going to make a show about my calls, and that's it. The only thing that really surprised me here is that he was allowed back, I'm curious how that occurred.

I checked bbstate (website is down), ESPN.com (didn't have box score) and the Green Bay and Valparaiso athletic department websites (officials were not listed in box score) and found absolutely zilch on who these guys were. I smell a coverup.

The radio guy was the only guy Green Bay had - so it was radio silence. The commissioner checked with the coordinator and decided it was in best interest to let him back with the coordinator as chaperone for a little bit to make sure he behaved. The league media guy was involved too. The announcer has a history of being a good citizen.

Pat Adams was the official who went to the table and mimicked the gestures that the radio announcer did and had him removed. Doug Sirmons was also on the game. Mike Roberts was the third. The names are listed in the video at the link below.

The article which I read stated that a broadcaster from another school (Oakland) jumped in for him while he was gone. There is no reason that he couldn't have finished the contest. The incident occurred with 12:29 remaining in the 2nd half and the game went to OT.
This Play-By-Play Announcer Was Ejected After Arguing With A Ref

Yeah I ended up watching the video online and could tell who they were. Wanna bet it was Sirmons again?

I'd do well in that bet since I just told you it was Pat Adams.

Why is it stupid to expect that personnel sitting at the table will act like professionals and not fanboys?

If you're sitting on press row you do not get to act like he did without repercussions. Period.

Not sure what your vendetta is with an official who's worked the Final Four multiple times.

I see this same kind of behavior from media on Twitter locally (I live in a B1G city). They see nothing wrong with it. They think their job allows them to complain constantly about the officiating and be unabashed homers whenever they want.

Media people used to be more professional than this.

A local sports reporter did exactly that on Twitter in a recent HS game in my area. He was disrespectful to the officials working the contest and unprofessional.

I'm certain that he enters the building for free with a media pass. I think that it would be great if the leadership of the officiating group would contact his employing company and express a concern about his social media behavior. I would even ask that they send a different reporter to cover future HS contests with their media credential.

How amusing would it be for him to get ejected and have to buy a ticket to get back in? :eek:

SC -

I find it amusing on this site that around this time of year there is a lot of bashing on guys that are going to most likely get to the regional semis and finals......but I don't know why.

That's tantamount to asking what's his issue with some CEO of a multi-million dollar company. Success in one's field doesn't exclude the individual from being a jerk.

Funny how that works.

My point was the AremRed trashed Sirmons on the Calipari thread a few weeks ago and is now "wants to bet" that Sirmons is the official that dismissed the announcer (which he wasn't). I think the way Sirmons handles business is just fine given his history of postseason advancement.

That may be true. Now if his criticism were of Karl Hess...:D

So...as a guy who works in the media and *has* done play-by-play from courtside at basketball games I have to agree with Constable

I have no idea what the broadcaster said and I don't condone acting the fool when doing a game, especially if you're close enough that players, coaches and officials can hear and see you. However, there's no rule justification for an official to kick a broadcaster out of the playing area any more than there is for an official - on his/her own - to kick a fan out of the playing area for saying their calls stink. If there's an issue, tell game management and let those folks deal with it. Game management will get in contact with the broadcast people, the conference representative or the broadcaster himself and straighten out the situation. The broadcaster isn't a team member so we don't have jurisdiction over him.

As to why he was allowed back in that's simple, at least to me. His station - and the advertisers on the broadcast - are paying for *him* to do the game, not the guy from Oakland University who stepped in to help. Radio silence = lost revenue. His station will deal with the situation if it sees fit.

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I disagree completely. Anyone causing a disturbance or disrupting those involved in the game should be removed.
I don't know where you got the idea that the official went and removed the radio guy. Watch the video. He clearly reported to someone behind the scorer what he did and instructed that person or persons to remove him.
Lastly, I don't give a darn how much he is being paid or others paid for him to be there. If he behaves poorly, he leaves and they can find a replacement or lose out on their bad investment.

OK, that video showed me nothing but Adams waving his arms and gesturing. I couldn't find the person at the table doing it.

The media also criticizes teams, players, coaches, AD's, etc. They seem to be able to handle it. Oddly, they are even asked and take questions from the media about things right after games. I guess some are above criticism though or can't handle it. I don't know why some want to shy away from accountability or think they can't improve.

The games are happening because of the players, coaches, schools..not the officials games and that's what people want to see. People and players are tired of 40 foul games that are decided by free throws and foul outs, they want to see players win games.

Pat Adams may be a great person but he's repeatedly shown he can't handle emotions that happen from competition and human beings and for whatever...and he can't mentally focus on what he needs to without getting his feelings hurt. It's okay to be questioned..no one should think they are above reproach.

Absolutely no accountability in the paycheck collecting world of contract work. Where everyone feels they can insert themselves and have no repercussions in the good ole boy network

Go back and check the tape. I didn't trash Sirmons then and I'm not trashing Sirmons now. My comment above was tongue-in-cheek. I think Sirmons is a great official. He is one of my favorite guys to watch and I have stolen several of his mechanics. That doesn't prevent me from questioning (not trashing) his handling of the Calipari situation.

Saying "the way Sirmons handles business is fine cuz of how high he has work" is inherently fallacious. It's akin to the Euthyphro dilemma of "Is something right because God commanded it, or does God command it because it is right?" It's not wrong to question an official because he's worked multiple Final Fours -- not one of us is above reproach and there is something we can learn from every situation.

Officials are there to see to it that rules are followed and the game is therefore fair. If doing that leads to a lot of fouls and free throws the problem is NOT the officials but the players or the rules themselves.

I'm not defending this officials actions, but I'm absolutely defending officials in general from ignorant statements like this.

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I'm not exactly sure who your rant is directed at. The NCAA and its coaches wanted the game cleaned up. If there are 40 fouls per game called, it's because that's what the teams/coaches/leagues/NCAA wants.

The conference hires the officials. Surely if the teams are *that* unhappy with the work, they'll ask their supervisor of officials to hire others....or they'll get a new supervisor of officials. I'm guessing they're thrilled to have officials like Pat Adams working for them.

It's fine to question officials. However, when local media do nothing but question calls that go against the home team, that just strikes me as completely idiotic. Frankly, I can't believe that people believe that bullcrap.

At least the national announcers are equal opportunity offenders.

Another clown who knows nothing about how the rules are written and who dictates points of emphasis. Just running your trap. Thank you for watching NCAA basketball.

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It must be March.

When you make idiotic statements like this, all it does is make you look like you've got some personal vendetta.

mutantducky is that you again?

Ah, the return of the fanboys. I love March.

As I said, I don't. My comment was tongue-in-cheek, although I should have included an emoji to make that more clear.

I have Sirmons' phone number, do you want me to call him up and apologize?

I was only able to read the article at the time of my prior post but I'm still not in favor of telling GM to kick him out unless he's cursing out me, my partners or team members. If GM gets in contact with the appropriate folks connected to the broadcast I guarantee it stops.

That's good because we shouldn't. Our job is to officiate the game. However, someone is paying for that media coverage and whatever that company may feel about the guy's behavior its representatives aren't going to like it when the air goes dead or when someone else's voice is on their station. It's the reality of broadcasting an event. It's a conference tournament game which means there will be a conference media representative available to handle things along with a producer for the radio station. Frankly, the conference person probably would've had more clout.

The part of this post that's irrelevant. By this logic, we shouldn't have the authority to dismiss anyone. Fans pay for tickets, are you going to say that we can't kick them out?

It's really simple. Say whatever you want on the air, but throw your hands up and you're asking for it. Sorry, but you don't get to act however you want on press row like fans do. (Just for the record, I have no problem with GM allowing him to return to the broadcast after a brief "time-out.")

Why should we, as officials, care about what that radio station has paid to broadcast that game? It's not my job to ensure their ability to make money.

If somebody is causing a disturbance then it has to be dealt with. If the station has a problem with that then they need to look at the guy that got removed from the table... not the official or administrator that removed him.

Did I say what a radio station has paid should matter? I'm saying they paid the person so it's up to them ultimately to deal with him/her unless said person is threatening someone.

By the way, there's a link on the page below that has the radio audio from the broadcast. Listening to it in combination with the video really makes it seem as though this was much ado about nothing.

Audio Surfaces Of Pat Adams Ejecting Green Bay Radio Guy | Nation Of Blue

I've never "waved off an official" while broadcasting a basketball (or hockey) game on radio or the internet but, as the broadcaster says in the clip, I *do* move my hands as I try to describe things (yes, even on radio because you forget you can't be seen). The guy was sitting at a table behind the scorer's table. No one in the gym - including the people at the media table - seems to have an idea why the official is upset. To me, that says it wasn't as much of a "distraction" as some might believe.