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Old Mon Mar 07, 2016, 09:35pm
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MAAC Title Game: Several Plays (Video)

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Old Mon Mar 07, 2016, 09:50pm
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Plays 1 and 2 I don't see as fouls. In #1, looked like the shooter flailed a lot, which generally is an attempt to gain a whistle. In #2, trail was right there and had nothing but he also didn't mark the attempt so maybe it was below the line and it was leads call. I'm on my phone so it's hard to see. Our laptop is the first ever dell prototype so it is rarely ever used. In 3, the taunt, I assume the lead also heard what was said. And I don't know what coach was saying, can't read his lips that well but looked like he was trying to work the ref pretty good. In 4, i could go either way but I think it's correct. Pretty good hip check as he is receiving the pass, before the catch/shot.
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Old Mon Mar 07, 2016, 10:02pm
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In #2, trail was right there and had nothing but he also didn't mark the attempt ...
Trail did mark the attempt with his left (tableside) hand. Not a good get by the Lead because there was nothing to get.

And I think we'd all agree, especially with the benefit of replay, No. 1 is nothing either.
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Old Mon Mar 07, 2016, 10:07pm
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No. 3, have to trust the official there. As for the coach's profane and prolonged reaction, we have zoom and can all read his lips. If any of that was audible, that's automatic T material. No judgement required. But maybe in that environment, especially with the calling (targeted) official opposite, it just melted into the background.
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Old Mon Mar 07, 2016, 10:13pm
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No. 3, have to trust the official there. As for the coach's profane and prolonged reaction, we have zoom and can all read his lips. If any of that was audible, that's automatic T material. No judgement required. But maybe in that environment, especially with the calling (targeted) official opposite, it just melted into the background.
If you saw this game, there was a lot of talking and reaction to a lot of things in this game. Something tells me this was addressed directly and this player just did not listen. It was very contentious and a lot of reactions to calls and situations.

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Old Mon Mar 07, 2016, 11:01pm
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#1. Good call...the defender never stopped walking into the shooter's space and there was contact as he was moving forward.

#2. Another good get...the shooter got smacked in the face. No place for that as it wasn't anywhere near the ball.

#3. The body language sure looked like what would go along with taunting....I'm sure the official had it right.

#4. While he may have been contacted prior to the start of the shot, he was still being contacted during the shot...count it and shoot 1. SDF.

#5. I don't see anything the defender did wrong. He jumped vertically. RA doesn't apply when the player jumps to block the shot.
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Old Mon Mar 07, 2016, 09:53pm
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Just saw you added 5: looks like a block. Defender jumped and maintained vertical but jumped from RA.
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Just saw you added 5: looks like a block. Defender jumped and maintained vertical but jumped from RA.
If he jumps to block the shot and has verticality, it cannot be a RA Block. The RA block is only when a secondary defender sets up to take a charge.

If the player is jumping to block a shot, this cannot be a RA play.
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Old Mon Mar 07, 2016, 10:05pm
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Just saw you added 5: looks like a block. Defender jumped and maintained vertical but jumped from RA.
RA does not apply when the defender jumps. So it is judged as it would without the RA coming a factor.

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Old Tue Mar 08, 2016, 12:43pm
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RA does not apply when the defender jumps. So it is judged as it would without the RA coming a factor.



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Thanks for the info on that. I wasn't aware.
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Old Tue Mar 08, 2016, 10:07pm
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For shots in the corner sure, move out and take it as the L. I thought this was a reach by the L. Not bc of any matchup in the post but bc the T was standing right there and had nothing.

I disagree Higgins is a dinosaur. He works a ton of games and doesn't put up with a lot of crap. Imho, he does a good job.

And if the NCAA wants coaches cussing penalized, someone should tell the officials. I love Coach K but he would be dumped every game if cursing were a T. He does it a lot. Sadly.
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Old Tue Mar 08, 2016, 10:12pm
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For shots in the corner sure, move out and take it as the L. I thought this was a reach by the L. Not bc of any matchup in the post but bc the T was standing right there and had nothing.

I disagree Higgins is a dinosaur. He works a ton of games and doesn't put up with a lot of crap. Imho, he does a good job.

And if the NCAA wants coaches cussing penalized, someone should tell the officials. I love Coach K but he would be dumped every game if cursing were a T. He does it a lot. Sadly.
You're thinking of John Higgins. I think the previous post was speaking of Tim Higgins.
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Old Tue Mar 08, 2016, 10:19pm
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Hahaha. You would be correct. My bad. I thought something was weird about the dinosaur statement
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