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Old Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:23pm
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Butler @ Georgetown Plays (Video)

Play 1: 3 Point Shot Foul


Play 2: Backcourt Foul called


Play 3: Vertical Defender??


There are some more plays I will post. But a tough game to officiate.

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Old Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:37pm
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1. Tough call to make, but looked like there was contact on the shooter's arm before he returned to the floor.

2. Perhaps I'm biased, growing up a Syracuse fan and hating Georgetown, but it looked like the defender moved into the dribbler's path. The defender gained LGP, but when the dribbler was going to go around him he moved sideways/towards the dribbler.

3. Ugh! I hate when players react like that to this play. The defender's arms were up and out in front of him at the time of contact (aka outside of his verticality). He pulled them straight up after the contact.
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Old Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:45pm
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1. Good defense, hard to see for sure, but probably a CC. HTBT, T had a better look than any of us did on the video.

2. Arm extended and displaced, CC. Unusual that deep in the backcourt, though, and so T punched the wrong way. I'd be lying if I said I've never done that.

3. Not vertical, CC. Wonder if he gave the Frankenstein signal when he reported?

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Old Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:49pm
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Round 2: (Video)

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Play 5:


Play 6:


A few more to come as well.

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Old Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:06pm
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4. Looked like the defender got LGP, so he did nothing wrong, therefore it's not a blocking foul. I suppose you could have a PC foul, as the dribbler did make slight contact with the defender's torso, but I probably would have called it the way this guy did.

5. While the foul that was called is fine with me (at least if he called the foul for contact with the dribbler's left arm), it looked like the dribbler could be called for a foul the way he held off the defender with his non-dribbling arm.

6. Good call. The G-Town player tried to push through the Butler player to get the loose ball.
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Old Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:24pm
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4. INC. IMO, defender was moving toward the ball handler at the last second. Then ball goes OOB on offense, so possession consequence is a factor. So I believe there should have been a blocking foul here. That said, I have the benefit of replay, and this was a very close play. If the L judged that LGP had been maintained, then I like the no call with the subsequent ball OOB to Butler.

5. CC, and I would have had it for the jersey hold before the reach-around. No disrespect to GT for attempting a steal here, but there was definitely a foul in the process.

6. CC. No brainer. Admire the GT hustle, but that's a foul.
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Old Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:42pm
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Round 3 (Video) Final Round from this game.

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7. Looked like he still had control of the ball when a travel should have been called.

8. Damn that's a tough one. I'm not convinced the defender, after getting LGP, didn't move sideways and towards the dribbler who tried to go around him.

9. I think the G-Town player/dribbler held the arm of the Butler player, but would you call a hold on him? I honestly don't know, but I don't think the defender here did anything wrong.
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Old Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:01pm
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7. CNC. Defender caused loss of control before any travel occurred. Lead communicated this immediately.

8. IC. Defender established LGP and was maintaining it when contact occurred.

9. IC. The GT player had the Butler player's arm locked up the entire time. I don't mind the initial no-call on the GT bump, but after that it was all one prolonged hold on the GT player. Patient whistle, sure, but once you realize a call has to be made, and two officials get together to discuss it, I'm a bit befuddled that the call wasn't against GT.*

* Note: I find that this is something I need to work on, i.e. these deceptive holds by ball handlers. They are hard to catch. In video breakdown this year I noticed a missed a few, so that will be a summer project for me.
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Old Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:57pm
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Play #9: Gotta get the rebounding foul on White 0 for holding his opponent.
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Old Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:14am
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Play 1: 3 Point Shot Foul...I've watched it over and over and can't find the contact. I think he just shot a turkey. I just don't see a foul. I am not saying there wasn't one, but I'm not seeing it.

Play 2: Backcourt Foul called....great call. LGP established. Laterally moved legally.

Play 3: Vertical Defender??....great call, defender no where near vertical.

Play 4: Defender had LGP and, if moving, was even moving away. The offense cut back inside....which should rarely be a foul. Good no call on the contact.

Play 5: Good call. He was being held on the left side giving the defender leverage to get to the ball.

Play 6: Another good call....could have had it a couple of ways. Most prominently, 32 dove through 0's legs knocking him off his feet and preventing him from a chance at the ball.

Play 7: looks good. #30 got his hands in there. I'd have a held ball before I'd have a travel on that, but the ball did come out as a result.

Play 8: I was ready to go with a charge on first view but on the 2nd view, I changed to a block....barely. Player had LGP but shooter got just a little to the side of the defender and the defender was moving towards the shooter at the time of contact.

Play 9: If talking about the contact after the rebound, tough break, but foul on black 21. He just got caught in a bad spot. Even before, black 21 never had good position for that rebound. He was creating contact from behind the entire time.
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Old Sun Feb 28, 2016, 09:15am
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I was watching this game live and definitely had a lot of interesting plays in it.
1. Don’t see anything on #30 here – a little contact on #4 hand to hand, but not what the official called
2. PC – good call
3. Not vertical – good call
4. I think this is called a block more often than not. Thought he stuck the knee into the offensive player a lit bit at the end. Certainly close, so I can see it either way.
5. Honestly I thought and still think the offensive player hooks the defender which was the cause for the contact on the left side of the body. I thought the poke was clean. Offensive or nothing.
6. Good call – Every time I see a play like that my knee hurts
7. Probably would’ve saved my whistle for something else – result of the play was fine
8. I thought a PC live while watching. The overhead view was the best I thought and after seeing that I’m leaning more towards a block. But really difficult call.
9. I see Butler playing sticking his arm where it didn’t belong the whole way. What’s the GT player supposed to do after he gets the ball – run down the court with one arm up in the air until they’re separated?
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Curiously on #1 how many viewed the actions by the player as unsporsmanlike?
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Old Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:15am
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9.I see Butler playing sticking his arm where it didn’t belong the whole way. What’s the GT player supposed to do after he gets the ball – run down the court with one arm up in the air until they’re separated?
Before that happens GT #0 has grabbed Blue's arm by the bicep and locked him down.

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Old Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:23am
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Curiously on #1 how many viewed the actions by the player as unsporsmanlike?
Most definitely t worthy in hs. Seen it called in ncaa too. Might have gotten away with cause of time and situation in game.
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