Allen trips an opponent, again.
 

Let the Duke criticism begin.

Duke Blue Devils star Grayson Allen seen tripping another opponent in win over Florida State Seminoles

It looked like official behind play turned head as tripped player was hitting the floor but couldn't they go to monitor to see if there was anything intentional that caused the fall?

Go to the monitor and give him a dead ball contact technical

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I don't see anything wrong here, it was just a gritty player fighting for every advantage. He just wants to win, what's wrong with that?


Now where did I put that Duke alumni magazine? :)

In all seriousness, yea, that's a punk move. Probably should sit a game or at least a half for that. I doubt WeaselFace does anything about it though.

This looked like it was during a live ball. For nfhs, would this just be an Int flagrant?

I LOVE Duke and Grayson is one of my fave guys but this cheapo crap needs to stop. It's bush league and he doesn't need to engage in it. He has been yapping to refs a lot more recently too. Just knock it off and play a clean game already.

Impossible.

It's either an Intentional Personal foul or a Flagrant Personal foul. (I didn't watch the video, so I have no opinion)

NFHS -> Int if live / T if dead
NCAAM -> FF1 if live / dead ball contact T if dead

Either way the team will get the ball back the only difference is the spot of the inbounds.

I saw the replay. I would have had the intentional PF. If my partner went with a flagrant, I'd have no problem with that call either.

In NCAAM this doesn't exist see my options above. The call would also depend on the status of the ball.

Sorry. I didn't see your post until after I made my post.

I agree with you. You must know the ball status so you the correct foul to call. I replayed the video link, and it didn't show me clearly if the ball was live or dead. So I can't rule as to whether I'd have a personal or a technical foul. Personal = live, and Technical = dead.

Definite punk move.

The young man needs to be sat down. If there's no response from Duke staff/officials, they're marking themselves pretty distinctly on the moral compass. Should be interesting to see where they put themselves on the scale since other schools recently have taken their own steps for poor behavior.

Don't hold your breath. I'll bet Col. Jessup ordered the code red.

Is he also really so stupid as to not realize how many cameras are rolling in that arena that are picking up his every move? And that even if he "gets away with it" during the game, he continues to perpetuate the belief that Duke is a bunch of smug a$$h01es who think they can get away with anything?

Lots of Duke hate here. I love it. Much sweeter when they hoist a banner.

I have no dog in this fight, but I know a lack of class when I see it. And since I wear stripes frequently, I tend to call 'em like I see 'em.

Whether you're going to hoist a banner or not, get where you're going with respect for the rules, game and your opponents. For players on up through upper administration. Ain't happening right now.

There will be no banner hoisting this year.

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Amesman, guess you didn't read my post near the top. I would not tolerate this crap if I were his coach and have already said its bush league. Read the entire thread.

But this thought and belief that Duke encourages dirty play is just silly.

You're right. I was being facetious.

But we'll see how the coach responds.

Silence is agreement.

True, but public silence does not necessarily equate with actual silence.

On the flip side, a second occurrence doesn't help the impression.

Best method, period, for handling issues that affect individuals and teams, imo.

"What you permit, you promote." :p

+1!!

Permit=Promote: Calapari, Self, Roy Williams, Bruce Pearl, Boeheim, enough yet?

ACC has issued public reprimand and Duke will handle internally. I would support a 1 game or 1/2 game suspension as a way to show others that it's not to be tolerated but there have been way worse scandals than this that folks won't cry about so much. UNC academic, Etc. I really do wish college bball was more pure but there is too much money involved.

And I refuse to believe K promotes tripping an opponent. I've seen him dress down players for less.

1/2 game suspension -- now *that* would be a joke.

Not helping the cause; I'm pretty sure most of us have been equally hard on those guys.

I think it would be worse than just keeping it all internal and not announcing it.

I don't really see the need for a suspension of any sort. If it had been caught, it would have been a DBCT with 2 shots and the ball to the other team and he would have kept playing. It doesn't make sense to turn that into a full game suspension (or even a half game) because it was missed.

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PITTSBURGH -- Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski defended the way the Blue Devils handled the fallout from Grayson Allen's second entanglement with an opponent this season.

The ACC issued a statement on Friday taking Allen to task for his involvement but declined to discipline him further. Krzyzewski believes it was the right call. The Hall of Famer spoke to his leading scorer after the Florida State game, and Krzyzewski apologized to Seminoles coach Leonard Hamilton before calling the league.

"I would not suspend any player for what would be a flagrant 1," Krzyzewski said. "What he got was the stiffest reprimand a player in our conference has gotten this year. I thought the [ACC] took action, and you've got to move on. The world doesn't move on, because it's Duke."


"What he got was the stiffest reprimand a player in our conference has gotten this year," Blue Devils coach Mike Krzyzewski said of Grayson Allen. "I thought the [ACC] took action and you've got to move on. The world doesn't move on, because it's Duke." Andy Mead/YCJ/Icon Sportswire
On Thursday, the sophomore guard stuck his left leg out and tripped Florida State's Xavier Rathan-Mayes with 3.4 seconds left in Duke's 15-point romp. That incident happened after Rathan-Mayes appeared to grab the back of Allen's jersey in an attempt to fling himself down court. Allen received a flagrant foul for tripping Louisville's Ray Spalding earlier this month.

On Sunday, Allen was jeered mercilessly by Pitt's student section -- heavily armed with signs highlighting his misdeeds -- and though he made six of 13 shots, he also turned the ball over four times and failed to make a real impact (though few of his teammates did better) in a 76-62 loss. Allen doesn't believe the issue will linger heading into March.

"It's just being smart," he said. "I've had to be smart all season. Obviously, I made a mistake, and I messed up."

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I agree with that result.

It was no where near an FF2 level infraction. If it were, it should have resulted in a suspension. But, as it was, it should have been a basic DBCT.

Hard to impose a suspension when the play, if properly called, would have only resulted in 2 shots and the ball for the other team.

The act in this game alone doesn't warrant a suspension, but when this is a pattern from this same player, I think it could be justified.

And yes, I'm a hater.

Let's put him on double secret probation.

Around the 3 minute mark of 2nd half in this afternoon's ACC Tourny 2nd round game vs NC State Allen looks like he is about to trip a player again, then thinks better of it.. only to commit an intentional foul seconds later.

At this point, I think its fair to label him a "dirty" player who officials need to be on high alert for cheap non-basketball stuff.

It's getting harder to defend him but I don't think today was a dirty play. Quite possibly the stupidest foul ever in a tournament game, but not dirty. Barber was a foot past him and he tried to grab and got the FF1 for not playing the ball. Just needs to knock off the stupid crap and play ball. What an idiot

If you did not realize I posted your play request in another thread.

Peace