Fouled But Gets 5th Foul On A T?
 

UK TAMU game.

UK center gets fouled. Bonus. In his excitement he slams the ball down and gets whacked. It's his 5th foul.

How is the shooter determined?

UK player came off the bench to shoot. Not sure how he was selected. By shooting team? By opposing team?

It's whomever the sub for the fouled out player...coincidentally had this EXACT situation myself two weeks ago. Partner knew how to handle and helped out.

Whoever is his sub will shoot the 1-and-1.


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Post-game reports said that the defensive coach picked the shooter. That didn't sound right.

If a player is injured and the foul was not flagrant, the opposing coach would choose shooter from remaining 4 players on court. If the player is injured AND there is blood, his substitute will shoot the FTs if player is unable to shoot or resolve blood issue.

Finally, if the foul is flagrant and player is injured his coach can choose anyone on his team to shoot the FT.

Disqualifications like the OP follow normal rules as others pointed out. Sub shoots FT.s.

This is the NCAAW & NFHS rule. BigCat gave you the NCAAM rule.

Wouldn't have called T. Players are not robots. Wasn't disagreeing with call, taunting players, or anything of the nature. Seemed to simply be player excitement that he tried to stop once he realized his excitement. I've seen worse. Coaches get out of coaches boxes isn't always called, t wasnt called for fans running on court early,no reason this should have been either.

I'm more concerned about the obvious shot clock violation that wasn't called a dead ball on the previous possession by KY.

Or the fact that the clock didn't immediately start on the touch in the final throwin of OT.

I was enjoying the commentator make a mess of the explanation of what was going to happen next. Could feel that he was trying to find a case citation or something. was comical.

Just saw the video. I don't think I make that call at any point in any game I work; unless I have warned him previously or I'm asking him for the ball as he chucks it down the court. It's not going to delay anything.

But if SEC powers, and John Adams, want this called, so be it.

Nowhere in the NFHS/NCAA rules does it say that slamming the ball is an automatic T.

I'm leaving this one alone.

I believe you mean JD Collins. Adams is no longer the head honcho.

I haven't seen a good replay angle yet, but it appears the ball gets slammed in the direction of an opponent. I was expecting it to be one where he slams it to himself.

It's an unusual and unexpected act by the player. I'm not blaming an official for calling a Tech here.

Did anyone hear what the player was saying when he slammed the ball? He definitely was yelling something. I have no problem with the tech.

The post game report was probably because Jay Bilas wouldn't shut up. He kept spewing what was going to happen and he wasn't even close. He is the one insisting that the opposing coach gets to choose. When R came and told him what the scenario was, you know he never said "I WAS WRONG".

Poor technical foul...players actions do not meet ANY of the Class A Technical Foul definitions.

That's not true, he clearly said before the explanation that he wasn't sure and, after the explanation, said that he didn't know that and hadn't seen it before and, again quite clearly, distinguished this situation from if a fouled player is injured.

Easy to say from the replay booth. It really isn't hard for a player in that situation NOT to get a T. Just toss the damn ball to an official. The calling official was behind him. He could have easily interpreted the ball slam as an expression by the player "about time foul called" or a taunt "we win" etc. Many things that fit an A. As a player you learn in the 4th grade slamming the ball is bad. Ideally, a T isn't called here but I don't put it on the official.

I don't think it was a bad call, as it seems to be the expected call. I just don't see how it breaks any rules.

1. It wasn't taunting. I've never seen a player taunt without actually engaging an opponent or the opponent's bench directly.
2. I didn't sense it was overly exuberative. A teammate caught it, from what I understand.
3. It's not inciting the crowd.
4. He wasn't objecting to a call.
5. It didn't actually delay the game, which is the rule most people are quoting.

It's expected, I get that, I just can't think of a rule it violates.

When I see it on replay I say pass on it. The kid was excited. I can see though, how the calling official, from behind, might interpret it as unsportsmanlike. "about time you called the foul" or "F yeah --we win" which is what i think he yelled. You could tell by the look on the kid's face he was immediately remorseful/worried but the official behind didn't see his face etc.

I wouldn't rely on delay of game. As i said, slamming the ball, rightly or wrongly, is viewed as bad. The official may have just reacted on that being unsporting. The ball wasn't caught until it bounced a few times. I don't think it was that bad but, as i said, easy to not get a T.

Here is the video for this play......
 

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Commentary certainly doesn't help.

It's weak, but it's there. I think I would try to avoid calling this if at all possible, but I think it could be justified.

Because the phrase "Preventing the ball from being made live" is not well defined, is there anyone who would attempt to call this a delay of game? That not giving the ball to the official effectively "prevented the ball from being made live" on the ensuing free throws? Before the 'you're crazy' responses, I realize that that interpretation is a stretch, but I think it would be a great rule change to include things like this, that maybe don't rise to the level of a technical foul, but should probably still be addressed.

I would not call this delay of game. It's unsportsmanlike or nothing for me. He called it for unsportsmanlike conduct-slamming the ball---that's what he told the other officials.

If I wasn't calling a T i'd tell him "don't do that…ever…" Another rule isn't necessary.

The Kentucky player was looking in the general direction of two a&m players and says something that begins with an f bomb then throws the ball in the general direction of the a & m players . So maybe it was judged he was taunting them. He did say o shit immediately after throwing the ball.

When the three officials are huddled he says he slammed the ball on the ground, technical foul, unsportsmanlike conduct.